2026 FL5 Speculation Thread

[maranelloboy05]

Why not? They're doing the Integra Type S only for the NA market. Stranger things had happened.

But thats built in the US already and was planned that way.

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[TypeRD]

But thats built in the US already and was planned that way.

Exactly. Now imagine if they moved FL5 production to the US. There would be months and months and months of production pause between stopping production in Japan and moving parts and equipment to the US. Stuff like this doesn’t magically happen and there are huge costs involved. Time is money and this would be money down the drain on a car they already don’t make much money on. They won’t move FL5 production to the US. No way. The only way Type R production comes to the US is with a completely new model.

 

[CBPFL5]

Accord got a facelift in China last year along with a new mass market plugin hybrid system. Honda may still be working on the logistics of facelift and new PHEV for other markets.

 

[sackofcheese]

They didnt lower the MSRP but the presumption would be if it were sold as a 2026 they'd raise the MSRP for the 2026MY. Model year is a pretty arbitrary thing, I just dont see any reason this last batch didn't get "2026" thrown on and Honda raise the MSRP $1000.

Why these are not '26s is likely due to the NHTSA rule a model year can only be produced on one January 1st. So if they have a long model year planned they could be delaying the start of it.

 

[Clark_Kent]

Why these are not '26s is likely due to the NHTSA rule a model year can only be produced on one January 1st. So if they have a long model year planned they could be delaying the start of it.

I don't follow. Civic, Ridgeline, Odyssey, et al MY26 models are on the ground.

 

[pawnstar]

Why these are not '26s is likely due to the NHTSA rule a model year can only be produced on one January 1st. So if they have a long model year planned they could be delaying the start of it.

Is this new for 2026? Because some MY25 were definitely built in 2024.

 

[sackofcheese]

I don't follow. Civic, Ridgeline, Odyssey, et al MY26 models are on the ground.

Yes, and the 2027s of those models will have to start production in the factory before Jan 1, 2027 since they have been producing them early. Since Honda didn't start the 25s until later, they can push the launch of the 2026MY. With my background this leads me to believe there are some changes coming, Likely ones the customer won't see like new, modules etc. When you change model years the OEMs try to use up all of the parts on hand if possible before the change. Otherwise, they would have started 2026 production already.

Is this new for 2026? Because some MY25 were definitely built in 2024.

It's an industry rule, I am a factory engineer for a different OEM.

 

[CBPFL5]

Why these are not '26s is likely due to the NHTSA rule a model year can only be produced on one January 1st. So if they have a long model year planned they could be delaying the start of it.

That's not true at all. Most manufacturers start making a MY car in mid/late July and selling them by September the year before. NHTSA only requires a car is manufactured longer in the calendar yet in which it is the model year for

 

[pawnstar]

Yes, and the 2027s of those models will have to start production in the factory before Jan 1, 2027 since they have been producing them early. Since Honda didn't start the 25s until later, they can push the launch of the 2026MY. With my background this leads me to believe there are some changes coming, Likely ones the customer won't see like new, modules etc. When you change model years the OEMs try to use up all of the parts on hand if possible before the change. Otherwise, they would have started 2026 production already.

It's an industry rule, I am a factory engineer for a different OEM.

Then how come they were selling 2026 Honda Passport this past summer.

 

[Rons_FL5]

Why these are not '26s is likely due to the NHTSA rule a model year can only be produced on one January 1st. So if they have a long model year planned they could be delaying the start of it.

I don’t follow as well. 26’s are already being sold in 2025. In September we will start seeing 27’s sold. Also, the FL5 is on year 3 of its model run so far.

 

[sackofcheese]

That's not true at all. Most manufacturers start making a MY car in mid/late July and selling them by September the year before. NHTSA only requires a car is manufactured longer in the calendar yet in which it is the model year for

It can only be manufactured for 1 January 1st. So if you start it early, Like the 2026 Passport, it can't be made after 12/31/2026 for MY 2026. It works well in the case of a long model year run the following year after a launch or planned supply chain issues from parts delays. If 2027 is the last model year they could skip all of MY 26, with the extra inventory still coming to the dealer network and do a Spring MY27 launch and run that production out until 12/31/2027. All of this is hypothetical speculation anyway. No one actually knows anything on here.

 

[sackofcheese]

I don’t follow as well. 26’s are already being sold in 2025. In September we will start seeing 27’s sold. Also, the FL5 is on year 3 of its model run so far.

Model Year 4 or 5 is typically when a minor model change (Facelift) happens.

 

[CBPFL5]

It can only be manufactured for 1 January 1st. So if you start it early, Like the 2026 Passport, it can't be made after 12/31/2026 for MY 2026. It works well in the case of a long model year run the following year after a launch or planned supply chain issues from parts delays. If 2027 is the last model year they could skip all of MY 26, with the extra inventory still coming to the dealer network and do a Spring MY27 launch and run that production out until 12/31/2027.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/interpretatio...tion (NHTSA),of the fourth section of the VIN

A model year may be made for up to 2 calendar years, with the majority of the time being the year of designation of the model year. This means a 2026 car could be produced from December 2025 until November 2027. That would mean it would be built during both Jan1 2026 and Jan1 2027

MY2025 CTR can technically still be built and sold within the United States until August of 2026

 

[J_D]

Don't flame but sounds like copium lol

 

[sackofcheese]

https://www.nhtsa.gov/interpretations/modelyearjoneslet4#:~:text=The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA),of the fourth section of the VIN

A model year may be made for up to 2 calendar years, with the majority of the time being the year of designation of the model year. This means a 2026 car could be produced from December 2025 until November 2027. That would mean it would be built during both Jan1 2026 and Jan1 2027

MY2025 CTR can technically still be built and sold within the United States until August of 2026

I stand corrected, I've been told wrong then. Regardless, no one in here knows the actual answer, and if someone does, they wouldn't risk leaking it. I am hopeful they are going to do a MY26 since we didn't get a special send off and as Honda's largest market for the CTR I'd expect one.

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