Catastrophic oil leak - I am freaking out

[TypeRD]

Never once addressed op and brought up his choice in filter.

srt4 had a double gasket situation years ago. Same exact thing happened to me. I fucked up and installed the filter over a gasket that got stuck to the spindle thingy. Unlike op, my stupid ass had the car on for about 60 seconds. My motor was 100% fine. According to Lujan Motorsports, compression was clean, quick dyno was consistent, leak down was clean. I got stupid lucky. Considering op was quick to shut the motor off. I’m pretty sure his motor is absolutely fine but either way I do send folks in that spot good vibes.

and why would you wonder how Hondas gonna handle this? They didn’t do the oil change. Why should they assume any liability? Pretty sure they’ll inspect things free at least but wondering what they’re gonna do when we all know damn well how this is gonna go down seems dumb. I personally am more curious how the oil filter manufacturer would handle such a thing myself.

no need to be insufferable bro. Blocking me is an option. What? Everyone gets to fight about oil weight and filters and oil brands all over the forums but me?

What? Who’s insufferable? This isn’t even an oil or filter thread…so why argue any of that here? Have some self awareness, dude. All you’re doing is thread jacking. In fact, your example regarding accidentally dbl gasketing the filter on your SRT4 is the VERY FIRST TIME you’ve said anything relevant to the topic. Do you realize that?

Regarding liability, I agree this is likely to fall back on OP. But let’s see how Honda handles the situation or his local dealer handles it. Yes, ideally they offer to run tests and they all come back clean. If not, then what happens? I don’t know. I don’t work for Honda. Do you? Also, what will the filter manufacturer offer in this situation? Do you know? I don’t. I’m sure others don’t either. Again, let the thread run its proper course and allow OP to come back with more information. It could be helpful for others who change their own oil. That’s the point! I don’t think OP would’ve started this thread for any other reason.

If I or anyone wants to read about oil and filter analysis, there’s a couple of much more informative threads on that…or people can peruse Bob the Oil Guy all day long. Have at it. Why is this so difficult for you? lol!!!

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[Stanleywinthrop]

The filter manufacturer (probably) has no liability either as it would be a ‘use at your own risk’ case. JMO.

Technically speaking, the if the filter was negligently designed or manufactured the filter company could be responsible for any damage the filter causes. Of course, practically speaking taking the company to court is probably not worth it over the cost of a single engine.

If pentius is a legit company they will want the failed filter back so they can determine what happened. They aren't going to lose any sleep over a single blown engine. But a 100 or a 1000 blown engines could shut the company down.

 

[alSpeed2k]

Hmmm, even if the O-Ring failed, how did the filter spin off? Is it a case that the filter was only hand tightened? For the S2000 there have been many cases of the oil filter coming off, the usual cause was because the filter was hand tightened and not torqued to spec.

 

[apl360]

Technically speaking, the if the filter was negligently designed or manufactured the filter company could be responsible for any damage the filter causes. Of course, practically speaking taking the company to court is probably not worth it over the cost of a single engine.

If pentius is a legit company they will want the failed filter back so they can determine what happened. They aren't going to lose any sleep over a single blown engine. But a 100 or a 1000 blown engines could shut the company down.

Might come down to evidence, how you can prove it etc

 

[apl360]

Hmmm, even if the O-Ring failed, how did the filter spin off? Is it a case that the filter was only hand tightened? For the S2000 there have been many cases of the oil filter coming off, the usual cause was because the filter was hand tightened and not torqued to spec.

I remember that!I Every Honda used this one filter but the ap1 and ap2 used a totally different filter. Never tq a filter down in my ap2 and I never had an issue thank fully

I did check it maybe every two tank fills. I swear it was like owning a rotary again

 

[pwp25si]

How about, use what you want to use? What's the point of trying to convince people? Nobodys trying to have real discussion on these forums. Its always a shit show.

 

[Stanleywinthrop]

Might come down to evidence, how you can prove it etc

That's what it always comes down to.

 

[22Si]

You bickering idiots scared the OP away

 

[TypeRD]

Hmmm, even if the O-Ring failed, how did the filter spin off? Is it a case that the filter was only hand tightened? For the S2000 there have been many cases of the oil filter coming off, the usual cause was because the filter was hand tightened and not torqued to spec.

That’s kinda the weird thing about this. OP said he drove ~3000 miles with it with no problem. In that time, if the filter wasn’t seated, wouldn’t it have been leaking (leaving drops of oil in the driveway) prior to this full-on oil explosion? Let’s say the filter was loose, but tight enough during the warmer months. Could the cold weather have caused the filter to slowly backoff with hot/cold cycles?

 

[timestamped]

the oil filter O-Ring gasket failed.

This happened to my dad with his 991.2, serviced at Porsche, at least that’s exactly what they told him was the cause.

In his case, he was driving only days after the servicing, smelled burning right as low oil warning came on, pulled over and had dealer tow it back to their shop. They had to degrease everything but assured him all was fine. He was pissed.

I also just assumed it was technician error.
Good luck OP

 

[PointByPatrol]

I doubt the engine is damaged. Sounds like he cut it off at idle, and in time. Sucks that it happened, and I'd suspect that the filter loosened up over time. I've seen it happen before. OR!!!!! HE'S MADE AN ENEMY UNKNOWN TO HIM THAT SNUCK INTO HIS DRIVEWAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, JACKED HIS CAR UP, REMOVED THE SPLASH SHIELD, LOOSENED THE FILTER, REINSTALLED THE SPLASH SHIELD, LOWERED THE CAR, AND RAN OFF!

 

[jtlctr]

I doubt the engine is damaged. Sounds like he cut it off at idle, and in time. Sucks that it happened, and I'd suspect that the filter loosened up over time. I've seen it happen before. OR!!!!! HE'S MADE AN ENEMY UNKNOWN TO HIM THAT SNUCK INTO HIS DRIVEWAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, JACKED HIS CAR UP, REMOVED THE SPLASH SHIELD, LOOSENED THE FILTER, REINSTALLED THE SPLASH SHIELD, LOWERED THE CAR, AND RAN OFF!

This is why I put a padlock on my splash shield

 

[cryptolime]

sounds like the oil filter was just not torqued enough and eventually let go

 

[alSpeed2k]

That’s kinda the weird thing about this. OP said he drove ~3000 miles with it with no problem. In that time, if the filter wasn’t seated, wouldn’t it have been leaking (leaving drops of oil in the driveway) prior to this full-on oil explosion? Let’s say the filter was loose, but tight enough during the warmer months. Could the cold weather have caused the filter to slowly backoff with hot/cold cycles?

Some of the S2ks were also driven without issues prior to the oil filter coming off.

 

[HondaHoon]

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