Catastrophic oil leak - I am freaking out

[MooMoo]

Why should I? Either stay ignorant or go on that bob is the oil guy forum. That’s where it’s at. Like why do I need to do other’s research for them? Subarus filters are shit too. So are Toyotas tho a few years ago they did make some improvements apparently. Nissans are not great either as well

to be real with you. Thanks to me not listening to y’all and your “trust us the oem filter is enough” I was able to properly educate myself after a few minutes of googling.

so. Either keep on keeping on. Or get a better one. I honestly don’t really care what y’all choose but I sure as fuck am not gonna sit here and let mf’s unknowingly bullshit folks about the quality of the oem filter.

this is the internet. I’ve been using it since day one. Here’s a hint, don’t believe a god damn thing people say.

especially in this order

1) VW people
2) Honda people
3) ev people

UWU

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yall take this too serious, its an oil filter not an MRI machine

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[apl360]

Should sign with PHD in oil filters and fun at parties.

yall take this too serious, its an oil filter not an MRI machine

Can’t blame a Mf for wanting better filtration and flow

 

[TypeRD]

Can’t blame a Mf for wanting better filtration and flow

You done, Bob? The thread jacking was tiring 2 pages ago.

 

[AZCWTypeR]

All full flow oil filters are a compromise between particle capture and pressure drop. Adding a small micron bypass filter, in addition to a low pressure drop full flow filter, is a way to accomplish both. I don't think this is necessary if an OEM (or better) quality filter is installed with regular oil changes.

 

[apl360]

You done, Bob? The thread jacking was tiring 2 pages ago.

I literally made my account to argue about oil and filters. It was my first post here on these forums. Besides. This was inevitable. Anything to do with oil or filter discussions and y’all run it to hell. I didn’t open this door this time. I’m honestly surprised no one worked in the 0w20 vs 5w30 argument yet. Maybe in a few more pages I guess.

 

[NeRO_CTR]

This sucks to hear and see. I hope the engine is ok. I personally do my oil changes every 2500 miles. In a scenario like this one, it would have been a great way to circumvent a cheap gasket blowing out on ya. I also use Oem filters, not expensive, and at those intervals it leaves no reason to use any thing more or less.

what’s next if there’s an engine issue?

 

[Allthingsfl5]

The main reason I use OEM oil filters is the engineered gasket, similar to an o-ring, has never leaked on me and I torque until I feel light metal on metal contact. Zero issues in 40 years of Honda ownership.

I've had flat gasket filters leak before in extreme cold.

Pentius filters are labeled "Made in the PRC". That should tell you everything!

To be fair the proper way of installing the oil filter from Honda, is hand tight and than 3/4 turns

 

[cryptolime]

OEM 15400-RTA-003 or HAMP filters for me. Several decades of owning and working on Hondas as well and I've had no issues with them.

where's a good place to buy those RTA filters?

 

[J_D]

Look at allll the regular Hondas on the road from the past 20 years, that only get oil changes when the maintenance minder beeps. I think the Honda filter works just fine.

 

[TypeRD]

I literally made my account to argue about oil and filters. It was my first post here on these forums. Besides. This was inevitable. Anything to do with oil or filter discussions and y’all run it to hell. I didn’t open this door this time. I’m honestly surprised no one worked in the 0w20 vs 5w30 argument yet. Maybe in a few more pages I guess.

Give it a rest. Any arguing about oil and oil filters in this thread is really stupid. OP has a potentially dead engine due to what seems to be a fluke. This is literally the first time I’ve read of an oil filter catastrophically failing. No, I’m not obsessed with Bob the Oil Guy and maybe this is an everyday thing over there? I don’t know. Anyway…Could OP have used a better filter? Sure. Does this guarantee that this problem would never have happened? No. Let’s move on.

I and most others here simply want to know how the problem is being handled between Honda and any other parties involved. Hopefully OP comes back with good news soon. Fingers crossed. This is an odd situation and liability is going to get tossed around like a hot potato (before anything gets resolved), I’m sure.

 

[TypeRD]

To be fair the proper way of installing the oil filter from Honda, is hand tight and than 3/4 turns

Yeah. In this case it doesn’t seem that OP improperly installed the filter. He said he drove like 3000 mi on it without issue. If it was improperly installed, I think he would’ve seen drops of oil on the ground at some point before this oil explosion. It’s such an odd thing.

 

[apl360]

Give it a rest. Any arguing about oil and oil filters in this thread is really stupid. OP has a potentially dead engine due to what seems to be a fluke. This is literally the first time I’ve read of an oil filter catastrophically failing. No, I’m not obsessed with Bob the Oil Guy and maybe this is an everyday thing over there? I don’t know. Anyway…Could OP have used a better filter? Sure. Does this guarantee that this problem would never have happened? No. Let’s move on.

I and most others here simply want to know how the problem is being handled between Honda and any other parties involved. Hopefully OP comes back with good news soon. Fingers crossed. This is an odd situation and liability is going to get tossed around like a hot potato (before anything gets resolved), I’m sure.

Never once addressed op and brought up his choice in filter.

srt4 had a double gasket situation years ago. Same exact thing happened to me. I fucked up and installed the filter over a gasket that got stuck to the spindle thingy. Unlike op, my stupid ass had the car on for about 60 seconds. My motor was 100% fine. According to Lujan Motorsports, compression was clean, quick dyno was consistent, leak down was clean. I got stupid lucky. Considering op was quick to shut the motor off. I’m pretty sure his motor is absolutely fine but either way I do send folks in that spot good vibes.

and why would you wonder how Hondas gonna handle this? They didn’t do the oil change. Why should they assume any liability? Pretty sure they’ll inspect things free at least but wondering what they’re gonna do when we all know damn well how this is gonna go down seems dumb. I personally am more curious how the oil filter manufacturer would handle such a thing myself.

no need to be insufferable bro. Blocking me is an option. What? Everyone gets to fight about oil weight and filters and oil brands all over the forums but me?

 

[getRIGHT]

Never once addressed op and brought up his choice in filter.

srt4 had a double gasket situation years ago. Same exact thing happened to me. I fucked up and installed the filter over a gasket that got stuck to the spindle thingy.

Without knowing the final conclusion yet, this is exactly what I suspect as well.

I spent more than 20 years of my life in a Honda service bay and I can recall seeing on average 2 cars a year with oil filter failures with most of them coming from a double gasket situation.
Based on OP’s description of what happened I don’t think any engine damage has occurred since he never left his driveway with it.

 

[apl360]

Without knowing the final conclusion yet, this is exactly what I suspect as well.

I spent more than 20 years of my life in a Honda service bay and I can recall seeing on average 2 cars a year with oil filter failures with most of them coming from a double gasket situation.
Based on OP’s description of what happened I don’t think any engine damage has occurred since he never left his driveway with it.

I’m gonna not only hope you’re right but also agree with you

after my experience. I now double and triple check the filter gaskets now. Cheap insurance.

my son was flat rate at a Honda dealership too. They’d (the lube techs)accidentally double gasketed at least 1-2 times a week

 

[PNEUMA]

I don’t even see, or know how double gasketing can happen if your eyes are open when you R&R a spin on filter?

I remove old filter, let the filter galley drain as much as possible while I prep new filter by prefilling it with clean oil and a slight film of oil on the sealing gasket. Back under the car I go, then I wipe the threaded pipe then the bright, machined, gasket sealing surface with a rag to insure it is free of any debris. If this procedure is being used, I really don’t see how the previous filter gasket can remain as the sealing surface would feel like rubber as well as be black in color. Not saying OP double gaskets his filter because I don’t know his method of filter R&R. Could very well be a shit quality Chinese filter?

I’m sure all of us know in OPs situation that Honda has no liability and owes OP nothing. The filter manufacturer (probably) has no liability either as it would be a ‘use at your own risk’ case. JMO.

sidenote: don’t even understand owners who don’t change their oil/filter due to Honda dealerships saying that they are ineligible for a ‘free’ service due to MM stats. Included in my 11g Accord Touring was 24months of ‘free’ services. No thank you.

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