What did you pay for your FL5?

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Insane rates for who? The rates are insane because you say they are? Well maybe we can try this...no one gives a fuck what you're paying for your M2C and that you're 41, with no kids, and a perfect driving record. If people are paying more for a Civic, than you are your M2C, then that's what they're paying.
Why are you so angry? Did someone hurt you?

For crying out loud, listen to yourself. What you’re basically saying is that this thread shouldn’t exist.

According to your logic, sharing ADM or OTD price on a CTR is “never ever helpful” because there are “far too many variables” that influence the end price and “no one gives a f***” about what someone else paid. Some of those variables include negotiation skills, loan amount vs cash, state and local taxes, location, relationship with dealer, prior cars purchased through said dealer, inventory, etc.

So yeah, we read you loud and clear. You don’t like it when folks share pricing - of insurance or car or probably anything else - because that’s “never ever helpful”, unless they share their life story in the form of an e-book.

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I paid msrp plus 10k markup. I ain’t gonna lie, I didn’t haggle at all. I just wanted the car and honestly would’ve paid more if that’s what it took. This car checks all the boxes for me so I just wanted it. They did give me full trade in value for my civic lx at $14,500 for a 2018 Civic Lx with 80k miles. Then I gave another 16k down payment. Total price was 63k but knocked it down with trade in and down payment so financed 33k. For now it’s 530 for 72 months. But I plan to pay it off in 3 years so they won’t get much interest. And driving this car it was worth every penny. All I can say is if it’s not worth it for some then best don’t buy it. And the price is not going to go down by waiting. My dealership said it’s going to go up once the supply starts to go down, which makes sense to me.
 
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I paid msrp plus 10k markup. I ain’t gonna lie, I didn’t haggle at all. I just wanted the car and honestly would’ve paid more if that’s what it took. This car checks all the boxes for me so I just wanted it. They did give me full trade in value for my civic lx at $14,500 for a 2018 Civic Lx with 80k miles. Then I gave another 16k down payment. Total price was 63k but knocked it down with trade in and down payment so financed 33k. For now it’s 530 for 72 months. But I plan to pay it off in 3 years so they won’t get much interest. And driving this car it was worth every penny. All I can say is if it’s not worth it for some then best don’t buy it. And the price is not going to go down by waiting. My dealership said it’s going to go up once the supply starts to go down, which makes sense to me.
I definitely agree. I paid 12k markup and that was negotiated because, California, but the car is excellent and I don't regret it one bit. I think the price going up sounds about true. There are quite a lot of people who think the price will go down if it doesn't sell and when recession hits harder. I believe that up to a point. The CTR isn't a car most people look at when they need a car to get from A to B and especially if they are strapped for money, people would look at a cheaper car. It's an enthusiast car and if a dealer is charging too much, they will lower it a little to meet current market value.

The people I've read bragging about how they will buy the car below MSRP once recession hits and how everyone is stupid for paying markup, will likely never get the car. Most likely when a dealer lowers the markup a bit, I bet there are people who will be willing to bite on that price, unless you have the case where a dealer has 5 in stock, like during the FK8's time. Then that's when they go for MSRP but somehow, I doubt Honda will produce anywhere near the amount of FL5's as the FK8's, so supply will be more scarce, and prices will go up.
 


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I definitely agree. I paid 12k markup and that was negotiated because, California, but the car is excellent and I don't regret it one bit. I think the price going up sounds about true. There are quite a lot of people who think the price will go down if it doesn't sell and when recession hits harder. I believe that up to a point. The CTR isn't a car most people look at when they need a car to get from A to B and especially if they are strapped for money, people would look at a cheaper car. It's an enthusiast car and if a dealer is charging too much, they will lower it a little to meet current market value.

The people I've read bragging about how they will buy the car below MSRP once recession hits and how everyone is stupid for paying markup, will likely never get the car. Most likely when a dealer lowers the markup a bit, I bet there are people who will be willing to bite on that price, unless you have the case where a dealer has 5 in stock, like during the FK8's time. Then that's when they go for MSRP but somehow, I doubt Honda will produce anywhere near the amount of FL5's as the FK8's, so supply will be more scarce, and prices will go up.
Very true about it being an enthusiast car. They know the market value. Because if they sold them for msrp, people would buy them and turn around and sell them for 10k more and it would sell in a heartbeat. And I’m not sure if it’s all dealerships but mine told me Honda will only allow them to receive one at a time. They can’t request another one until they sell the one they got. When I bought mine they put in an order for another. But they said they would be lucky to get another one since they are so limited. The car is special and it is worth more then msrp in my book.
 

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Just to add fuel to the fire..
I'm paying under 240 Every 6 on my Teggy through Costco..
 

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60k. marked up with 4k of accessories within the markup. They threw in gap insurance, least they can do. SGP, carbon fiber spoiler, red leather shift knob, illuminated door sills, door rain guards, protection paint, ppf coating spray. She sure is nice. Crazy how in the right like this thing looks light blue

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60k. marked up with 4k of accessories within the markup. They threw in gap insurance, least they can do. SGP, carbon fiber spoiler, red leather shift knob, illuminated door sills, door rain guards, protection paint, ppf coating spray. She sure is nice.

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They at least throw in some lube for raping?
 
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60k. marked up with 4k of accessories within the markup. They threw in gap insurance, least they can do. SGP, carbon fiber spoiler, red leather shift knob, illuminated door sills, door rain guards, protection paint, ppf coating spray. She sure is nice. Crazy how in the right like this thing looks light blue

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You should go get a real ppf on that baddie, dealership ones are normally shit and don't cover enough. Nice pic!
 

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You should go get a real ppf on that baddie, dealership ones are normally shit and don't cover enough. Nice pic!
Maybe I’m in the minority but IMO PPF is a waste of money and time.

1. The glue begins to yellow after a few years even on the new, high tier PPF after roughly 3-5 years. That’s my experience.

2. It needs replacing.

3. The paint without PPF will fade differently if the car frequently experiences the elements. Yes, clear and PPF both have UV protection but there’s still a difference.

4. Cars get rock chips so it’s a losing battle regardless.
 

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Maybe I’m in the minority but IMO PPF is a waste of money and time.

1. The glue begins to yellow after a few years even on the new, high tier PPF after roughly 3-5 years. That’s my experience.

2. It needs replacing.

3. The paint without PPF will fade differently if the car frequently experiences the elements. Yes, clear and PPF both have UV protection but there’s still a difference.

4. Cars get rock chips so it’s a losing battle regardless.
1. I've seen warranties 5+ years against it. So keep your paperwork.

2. I'm not sure anyone implied otherwise.

3. No one is debating that. Still simply trying to protect the paint as much as possible.

4. Yes the cars will get damaged. I think people are simply looking to keep their car looking as good as possible for as long as possible. I understand that isn't for everyone. For many a car is tool used to get from A to B. However if you're on this forum and discussing it as well as own one. You are likely doing it because the car means more to you than that. So you will do what you can to mitigate the effects to time and wear. We all live in various parts of the country and will experience different ways mother nature or daily driving will impact our cars.

I understand it is your opinion. You will place value on certain things differently than other. Calling it a waste of time feels a bit much.
 
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60k. marked up with 4k of accessories within the markup. They threw in gap insurance, least they can do. SGP, carbon fiber spoiler, red leather shift knob, illuminated door sills, door rain guards, protection paint, ppf coating spray. She sure is nice. Crazy how in the right like this thing looks light blue
Wow that color looks great.
Also, gap insurance is about $4 a year for one or two then it drops off. So maybe $8 in all they threw in.
 

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Maybe I’m in the minority but IMO PPF is a waste of money and time.

1. The glue begins to yellow after a few years even on the new, high tier PPF after roughly 3-5 years. That’s my experience.

2. It needs replacing.

3. The paint without PPF will fade differently if the car frequently experiences the elements. Yes, clear and PPF both have UV protection but there’s still a difference.

4. Cars get rock chips so it’s a losing battle regardless.
I actually just talked to my neighbor who stopped me to talk about my CTR about this because I always see him cleaning his cars. He used to be a detailer and pretty much said the same thing about PPF and ceramic coating.
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