Need to push the clutch all the way to the floor?

[MooMoo]

this clutch is pretty light... seems like maybe an auto is in your future again

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[FL5golfer]

It's really easy to drive this car. Don't get discouraged. It's all basically muscle memory.
Another tip: Add gas as soon as you start releasing the clutch.

 

[creaturemachine]

OP should've bought a Tesla...

 

[TypeRD]

And pressing the clutch all the way down every time makes me feel tired. Remember driving manual car 30 years ago was fun, but now getting old, sometime hesitate to drive this car, especially during rush hour.

I understand where you’re coming from. Driving manual in rush hour stop/go traffic is never fun and can get tiring (even for younger drivers). As others have said, there are times when automatics are better. This is where a 2nd vehicle (with automatic) comes in very handy. Keep your FL5 for when you want to drive. But have an automatic handy for when you need comfort and convenience.

 

[Integra23]

For me the issue isn't the clutch pedal action but holding the same position for the throttle bothers my right foot. Maybe some heal-toe action would help me.

 

[xpeng]

I realized another reason why I don’t like to press the clutch all the way down. i don’t need to lift my heel and move, heel just stay at one point and move my foot palm, so I can feel and find the friction point much easier.

 

[jets-do-miami]

And pressing the clutch all the way down every time makes me feel tired. Remember driving manual car 30 years ago was fun, but now getting old, sometime hesitate to drive this car, especially during rush hour.

when the fl5s first came out, someone on yt posted a review, and part of that was a clutch stopper that mounts under the clutch pedal and shaves a fraction of an inch of travel. Anyone know that product and is it "safe" for clutch operation?

 

[Gansan]

when the fl5s first came out, someone on yt posted a review, and part of that was a clutch stopper that mounts under the clutch pedal and shaves a fraction of an inch of travel. Anyone know that product and is it "safe" for clutch operation?

That sounds like a terrible idea. What if your clutch was out of adjustment and you needed that last bit of travel to fully disengage it? You're handicapping your ability to use the full travel of the clutch. You're not improving or changing the actual clutch in the drivetrain and how it works, you're just making it impossible to use the last bit of travel when you need it.

It would be like putting a stopper under the gas pedal and declaring that it's easier to go full throttle now.

 

[xpeng]

I think my trans (200 miles now) is not that clear when changing gears, have to push/pull a little hard to ensure it's engaged. Happened at lease 2 times, on reverse and 2nd. I did pull the stick, but it's not fully engaged.
I remember someone said after break in it will be better.

 

[zumbooruk]

when the fl5s first came out, someone on yt posted a review, and part of that was a clutch stopper that mounts under the clutch pedal and shaves a fraction of an inch of travel. Anyone know that product and is it "safe" for clutch operation?

per JSR Engines it is "safer"

This JSR pedal stop kit allows a certain amount of stroke on the diaphragm while avoiding over-engagement or gear lock out on high rpm shifts. Anyone that has driven a stick shift car knows when you power shift or shift fast you should always half pedal to allow for smoother seamless shifts. When you slam the pedal to the floor it over extends the diaphragm of the clutch system almost making it seem like you are not pressing the clutch in (reversing the process). The reason for this is the clutch is designed and operates on a certain amount of stroke or allowed throw. When you pass that threshold the pressure plate begins to close as if its not being activated. This kit will limit your clutch slave throw allowing super quick and effortless shifts.

https://www.jsrengines.com/product/jsr-fl5-de5-clutch-pedal-stop-kit

Blackhawk makes same/similar stopper:

Preventing poor disengagement due to clutch overstroke and This is a clutch pedal stopper for adjusting clutch stroke. The seat position will also be improved by installing it.

https://www.blackhawkjapan.com/collections/body-reinforcement/products/rigid-aa1020-2


Being a cheapskate, I could not get myself to pay $54 (w/shipping) for the clutch pedal stopper, so I got this from Amazon for $0.80 per disc:

https://www.amazon.com/PATIKIL-Rubber-Washers-Anti-Vibration-Bushings/dp/B0F248XGZ4/

and used 3M double sided tape, which I already had at home, to mount it onto the OEM clutch pedal stopper:

https://www.amazon.com/3M-Scotch-5952-VHB-Tape/dp/B01BU7038A/

I don't have a picture, but the combo measured 8mm which is just about 5/16"

the rubber disc is not hard/rigid, which I like over the hard OEM hard plastic stopper

I also adjusted the clutch pedal to eliminate most of the free play at the top

next step will be CDV delete, but need to get a bleeder kit first...

 

[Nostracs]

Technically you can shift without pressing the clutch at all but i wouldnt recommend it..

 

[zumbooruk]

Technically you can shift without pressing the clutch at all but i wouldnt recommend it..

I had to when the clutch pedal bracket broke in my 07 FA5 Si…

Rev match and gently push into gear. Attempt to hit all traffic lights on green.

 

[maranelloboy05]

I learned to drive stick in my first S2000 which historically has a very high engagement point, for 15 years across 120k miles in S2000s I would say a solid 50%+ of my shifts have been without pushing the clutch all the way to the floor and I have yet to see any issues and the only clutch job I've ever done was on my 3rd car right after I bought it.

Once the clutch is engaged...its engaged and any travel beyond that is superfluous. I'm tempted to try the clutch stop myself but that's more so due to uncomfortability of having the brake and throttle pedals sitting so much higher than the clutch, although I dont think it bugs me enough to go searching for a fix.

 

[J504]

per JSR Engines it is "safer"

This JSR pedal stop kit allows a certain amount of stroke on the diaphragm while avoiding over-engagement or gear lock out on high rpm shifts. Anyone that has driven a stick shift car knows when you power shift or shift fast you should always half pedal to allow for smoother seamless shifts. When you slam the pedal to the floor it over extends the diaphragm of the clutch system almost making it seem like you are not pressing the clutch in (reversing the process). The reason for this is the clutch is designed and operates on a certain amount of stroke or allowed throw. When you pass that threshold the pressure plate begins to close as if its not being activated. This kit will limit your clutch slave throw allowing super quick and effortless shifts.

https://www.jsrengines.com/product/jsr-fl5-de5-clutch-pedal-stop-kit

Blackhawk makes same/similar stopper:

Preventing poor disengagement due to clutch overstroke and This is a clutch pedal stopper for adjusting clutch stroke. The seat position will also be improved by installing it.

https://www.blackhawkjapan.com/collections/body-reinforcement/products/rigid-aa1020-2


Being a cheapskate, I could not get myself to pay $54 (w/shipping) for the clutch pedal stopper, so I got this from Amazon for $0.80 per disc:

https://www.amazon.com/PATIKIL-Rubber-Washers-Anti-Vibration-Bushings/dp/B0F248XGZ4/

and used 3M double sided tape, which I already had at home, to mount it onto the OEM clutch pedal stopper:

https://www.amazon.com/3M-Scotch-5952-VHB-Tape/dp/B01BU7038A/

I don't have a picture, but the combo measured 8mm which is just about 5/16"

the rubber disc is not hard/rigid, which I like over the hard OEM hard plastic stopper

I also adjusted the clutch pedal to eliminate most of the free play at the top

next step will be CDV delete, but need to get a bleeder kit first...

Just wanted to say thanks for this info. I have felt this “overstroke” in the shift knob while going from 1st to 2nd since I got this car and haven’t been able to figure out why. It feels like the clutch isn‘t fully disengaging and for a split second, there’s a feeling of resistance trying to move the shifter out of 1st gear. I had tried adjusting the free play and clutch fluid flush without any resolution. To test out this process, i added some leftover 3m clear rubber in place and it solved my issue. If i slammed the clutch pedal all the way down, squishing the rubber, I could reproduce the symptom. If I depressed the clutch without squishing the rubber down, the shift was smooth as it should be. Ill be ordering the disc mentioned above to make this more permanent.

 

[zumbooruk]

Just wanted to say thanks for this info. I have felt this “overstroke” in the shift knob while going from 1st to 2nd since I got this car and haven’t been able to figure out why. It feels like the clutch isn‘t fully disengaging and for a split second, there’s a feeling of resistance trying to move the shifter out of 1st gear. I had tried adjusting the free play and clutch fluid flush without any resolution. To test out this process, i added some leftover 3m clear rubber in place and it solved my issue. If i slammed the clutch pedal all the way down, squishing the rubber, I could reproduce the symptom. If I depressed the clutch without squishing the rubber down, the shift was smooth as it should be. Ill be ordering the disc mentioned above to make this more permanent.

FYI, there are other "disc" you can get. I cannot find the post, but one person used a furniture slider which is made of harder plastic, and makes a "click" sound when you hit it with the pedal. he liked it. I wanted to keep mine quieter, and opted for the softer rubber.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbil...or-Carpeted-Floors-4-Pack-4700124EB/328941363

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