FL5 I money shifted twice....

[raffifuzza]

Hey y'all, I just wanted to ask about my current situation. So, I shifted from 3 to 2 not once, but twice in the span of like an hour. Don't crucify me, I know I'm very dumb for doing so, and I have questioned my entire existence a LOT, don't fret. Both times I just felt like banging a gear, like wheel hop like instant clutch dump just bang that thing into gear. I moved the shifter so fast I didn't realize I moved it to second since if you pull it straight down with your palm facing yourself HARD enough, it basically only goes to 2nd I've learned. The first time it went to just under 8k, I believe, so I think not TOO bad right?? The second time was right at the limiter, and idek it sounded horrible, like probably 9.5k-10k rpm it was the worst sound I've ever heard an engine make. It's been about 500 miles after now and no codes, lights, problems, etc. Am I in the clear fully now? Will my engine blow up in 50k miles spontaneously without notice after warranty is over? Will I even have warranty for anything at all now, cause I heard the ECU stores overrevs, is that true? Thanks everyone in advance, I'm just stressing and want to hear it from y'all... lol.

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[menikmati]

...if you pull it straight down with your palm facing yourself HARD enough, it basically only goes to 2nd I've learned.

I don't think I fully understand this. If you're pulling straight down from 3rd and not pushing against any of the shift centering springs, it should only be able to go into 4th. If your palm is facing towards you (to the left) and you pulled back and went into 2nd, then you inadvertently pulled to the left during the shift.

 

[Cueyo]

I don't think this fits the definition of a money shift (that would be like 4-2 or 5-2), not to mention how did you hit 10k rpm on a 3-2 shift? There's relatively a 1.5-2k diff in rpm for those gears, maybe 9k, but even then you'd have to mechanically do it (ie: rev limiter can't do anything). In either case, you'll only know if there's permanent damage if something happens to the car.

This whole post sounds like a bunch of bologna.

 

[menikmati]

....cause I heard the ECU stores overrevs, is that true?

You may have a permanent P0219 code if you truly had an overrev condition.

 

[jedi03]

I say wasn't a money shift as there's still wallet weight in OPs pocket...glad to see these motors are tough!

 

[Tougefl5]

It's been a while since the last money shift what now thread. Shouldn't be too long before the next my engine is making a weird ticking sound thread.

 

[jtlctr]

I wouldn’t worry too much about it. It happens to the best of us, and I don’t think anyone has experienced engine damage yet. If there is a code stored, it would show up on certain scan tools (not sure which) as a “permanent code”. I think you’re probably fine and after a few hundred more trouble free miles, you’ll forget that it ever happened.

 

[TypeRD]

I don't think I fully understand this. If you're pulling straight down from 3rd and not pushing against any of the shift centering springs, it should only be able to go into 4th. If your palm is facing towards you (to the left) and you pulled back and went into 2nd, then you inadvertently pulled to the left during the shift.

Exactly. This is why proper hand positioning technique is important. Don’t pistol grip the shifter from 3 to 4 and you’ll be FAR less likely to money shift into 2. Lots of YouTube vids available to learn from.

 

[TypeRD]

I don't think this fits the definition of a money shift (that would be like 4-2 or 5-2), not to mention how did you hit 10k rpm on a 3-2 shift? There's relatively a 1.5-2k diff in rpm for those gears, maybe 9k, but even then you'd have to mechanically do it (ie: rev limiter can't do anything). In either case, you'll only know if there's permanent damage if something happens to the car.

This whole post sounds like a bunch of bologna.

He did say he was nearly redlining it in 3rd the second time he did it. So if he did go from 3 to 2 at high RPM’s it’s possible he money shifted a bit. It’s never a good thing for the engine to over-rev. Did he damage anything? Maybe. Maybe not. It’s definitely possible, though.

 

[chopsuey34]

I almost money shifted in my new Si twice in the first few months. I'd recommend installing an Acuity shifter so the shifts are more defined and deliberate. Haven't money shifted since installing.

 

[optronix]

This engine isn't designed to spin to 10k lol. There's almost certainly damage the only question is how much.

Also, as for codes and what not, I know Porsche engine management systems record all overrev events and it becomes a prerequisite to get a report of this prior to any used purchase. It's called a DME report and looks something like this (and this is a bad one lol):

I know I've asked this before (and probably got an answer)... but can anyone chime in if they're aware if Honda offers a similar analysis?

 

[tezzasaurusrex]

The FL5 will log an engine over speed code, however it doesn't carry any freeze frame data so you won't know exactly how high rpm it went. But I would say if there's no immediate grenading shortly after the event, you should be in the clear. Be careful next time.

 

[Bandit_TypeR]

Hey y'all, I just wanted to ask about my current situation. So, I shifted from 3 to 2 not once, but twice in the span of like an hour. Don't crucify me, I know I'm very dumb for doing so, and I have questioned my entire existence a LOT, don't fret. Both times I just felt like banging a gear, like wheel hop like instant clutch dump just bang that thing into gear. I moved the shifter so fast I didn't realize I moved it to second since if you pull it straight down with your palm facing yourself HARD enough, it basically only goes to 2nd I've learned. The first time it went to just under 8k, I believe, so I think not TOO bad right?? The second time was right at the limiter, and idek it sounded horrible, like probably 9.5k-10k rpm it was the worst sound I've ever heard an engine make. It's been about 500 miles after now and no codes, lights, problems, etc. Am I in the clear fully now? Will my engine blow up in 50k miles spontaneously without notice after warranty is over? Will I even have warranty for anything at all now, cause I heard the ECU stores overrevs, is that true? Thanks everyone in advance, I'm just stressing and want to hear it from y'all... lol.

I would say what's done is done. Drive the car and deal with any issues when/IF they even arise. My gut tells me any issues would have already presented themselves if in fact you experienced a true "money shift". My guess you over rev'd a bit and avoided anything serious by quickly correcting your mistake. Early on I hit the rev limiter and it scared the hell out of me. Since then I have about 8k miles on the car and haven't noticed any issues. This car is for the track; not dragging so my shifts are always deliberate and not with the desire to slam the shifter as fast possible from one gear to the next. Regardless, there's nothing you can do but drive the car. What is done is done. Again, I think you're likely fine.

 

[jtlctr]

I would say what's done is done. Drive the car and deal with any issues when/IF they even arise. My gut tells me any issues would have already presented themselves if in fact you experienced a true "money shift". My guess you over rev'd a bit and avoided anything serious by quickly correcting your mistake. Early on I hit the rev limiter and it scared the hell out of me. Since then I have about 8k miles on the car and haven't noticed any issues. This car is for the track; not dragging so my shifts are always deliberate and not with the desire to slam the shifter as fast possible from one gear to the next. Regardless, there's nothing you can do but drive the car. What is done is done. Again, I think you're likely fine.

This is my feeling as well. If damage was done, you’d probably know by now. And there isn’t really anything to be done at this point anyhow besides to just keep driving.
Despite what Vin Diesel says, I think this isn’t the car for living life 1/4 mile at a time, and granny shifting is the safer bet.

 

[Xmetal]

I would say what's done is done. Drive the car and deal with any issues when/IF they even arise. My gut tells me any issues would have already presented themselves if in fact you experienced a true "money shift". My guess you over rev'd a bit and avoided anything serious by quickly correcting your mistake. Early on I hit the rev limiter and it scared the hell out of me. Since then I have about 8k miles on the car and haven't noticed any issues. This car is for the track; not dragging so my shifts are always deliberate and not with the desire to slam the shifter as fast possible from one gear to the next. Regardless, there's nothing you can do but drive the car. What is done is done. Again, I think you're likely fine.

Well said.

OP, best thing is to just learn from your mistakes - learn to use proper hand positioning techniques

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