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🔥 New FL5 / DE5 RMM Guide – What You Actually Need to Know 🔥


I just finished a full breakdown on rear motor mounts for the FL5 Civic Type R and Integra Type S, covering what each option really feels like, what to expect with NVH, which mounts work best for daily driving vs spirited vs track, and how different durometers actually behave once installed.


The blog covers:


✅ OEM vs aftermarket behavior
✅ NVH expectations (realistic, not sugarcoated)
✅ Best RMM durometers for each type of driving
✅ Install notes and things most people overlook
✅ Which brands hold up, which soften, and which hit the subframe
✅ Why the FL5 reacts differently to RMM changes than the FK8
…and overall which setups are actually worth running.


It’s written to be simple, honest, and easy to read on your phone, without the usual Reddit/Facebook drama surrounding motor mount discussions.


📘 RMM Blog Link: FL5 Civic Type R Rear Motor Mount Guide: NVH, Fitment, and Options | SBX Performance


And since it’s me…
let’s see which company reaches out this time because they don’t like what I found during the write-up 😂
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Interesting take on prl versus wunderladen. Ive heard people say wunderladen is better nvh wise...

How did you come to the low/high nvh ratings? I saw that you depended on data from owners online, is that your primary source?
 
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Thanks for sharing!

What about Spoon/HardRace? :)
Spoon is a mount SET as far as I know so doe'nt count. Also Hardrace I have never seen anyone buy it. I kinda did the ones people discuss a lot. I can look into it though no problem. thank you
 
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Interesting take on prl versus wunderladen. Ive heard people say wunderladen is better nvh wise...

How did you come to the low/high nvh ratings? I saw that you depended on data from owners online, is that your primary source?
I have the Wunderland Race version on my car now. I actually made that mistake I will fix it I agree after the reviews. I meant to put med-high for race and Low for street. I did this blog with the flu lol Appreciate you guys giving me real feedback. I dont know everything
 


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Injecting the OEM mount is another inexpensive and effective option to consider.
VERY TRUE!! Thank you for that! Very budget freindly I just avoided that due to the chance of user error doing that. Filling it will definitely stiffen things up but you’ve got to use the right durometer material. If you go too hard or overfill it you’ll introduce extra NVH. Once it’s filled, expect a 24–48 hour cure time. Nobody that owns this car seems to have patience lol
 
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I am curious as to the pros and cons of EPDM (OEM, PRL) vs Polyurethane (everyone else)?
 

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VERY TRUE!! Thank you for that! Very budget freindly I just avoided that due to the chance of user error doing that. Filling it will definitely stiffen things up but you’ve got to use the right durometer material. If you go too hard or overfill it you’ll introduce extra NVH. Once it’s filled, expect a 24–48 hour cure time. Nobody that owns this car seems to have patience lol
Hah truth, myself included. Thats why I bought a second mount, injected, and installed :cool:
 

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Spoon is a mount SET as far as I know so doesn't count. Also Hardrace I have never seen anyone buy it. I kinda did the ones people discuss a lot. I can look into it though no problem. thank you
I have looked at this on SpoonUSA and am wondering why it is a set. I don't see Spoon selling just the rear motor mount separately.
I'm a total car custom boomer noob, so I don't even know what those other parts even are (???).

The SpoonUSA website does not have very descriptive "descriptions", of many of its Spoon parts, especially for noobs like me who have no clue what these parts are or how they work.

Any insight?
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I have looked at this on SpoonUSA and am wondering why it is a set. I don't see Spoon selling just the rear motor mount separately.
I'm a total car custom boomer noob, so I don't even know what those other parts even are (???).

The SpoonUSA website does not have very descriptive "descriptions", of many of its Spoon parts, especially for noobs like me who have no clue what these parts are or how they work.

Any insight?
Thanks.

Totally get what you mean — SpoonUSA doesn’t exactly write the most newbie-friendly descriptions lol. And trust me you’re not a boomer noob at all. Half the stuff on their site looks like here’s a $500 part good luck figuring out what it does we are SPOON lol doesntappear they update their site a lot.


So here’s the deal: Spoon only sells the rear motor mount as a set in the U.S. They don’t offer the rear mount by itself through SpoonUSA. They bundle the rear mount + the two engine mount inserts together because that’s their complete “engine mount upgrade package.” All three pieces work together to reduce engine movement, clean up shifting, and make the car feel more planted.I honestly have not seen anybody with Spoon mounts.


And yeah I love Spoon too. My FL5 basically looks like a Spoon demo car at this point, so I get the addiction. But let’s be real: Spoon is absolutely going after the U.S. market with these bundles. The U.S. tuning scene isn’t huge compared to Japan, so they push full kits instead of singles because it just makes more business sense for them. Plus everybody buys from over seas anyway so why should they stock US stores?


Quick breakdown of what the parts even are:

  • Rear motor mount: The big main mount that stops the engine from rocking back and forth under load. totally changes the feel of the car and its the best mod you can do and cheap. Dont really need the full set tbh unless your ont he track and high hp.
  • Side mount inserts: These just stiffen your existing mounts — they don’t replace anything, they just reinforce the stock ones so everything works together better.

If Spoon ever decides to sell the rear mount alone through SpoonUSA, I’ll update the blog. But for now, the set is the only U.S. option and not worth writing about
 
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I am curious as to the pros and cons of EPDM (OEM, PRL) vs Polyurethane (everyone else)?
easiest way to explain EPDM/OEM/PRL style = comfort.

Polyurethane = performance.
  • Want comfort? EPDM.
  • Want tight/sharp feel? Poly.
  • Want both? …good luck, pick your poison lol.
 

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I have looked at this on SpoonUSA and am wondering why it is a set. I don't see Spoon selling just the rear motor mount separately.
I'm a total car custom boomer noob, so I don't even know what those other parts even are (???).

The SpoonUSA website does not have very descriptive "descriptions", of many of its Spoon parts, especially for noobs like me who have no clue what these parts are or how they work.

Any insight?
Thanks.
Spoon sells it as a set because they can make each mount individually softer than a single rear mount but still offer less engine movement and NVH than a single mount would otherwise cause. They also do it that way because it fits with their "complete" tuning philosophy. The Spoon mount kit is also less likely to raise eyebrows at a dealership because the body of the mount looks very similar to the OE mount.

If you want only the Spoon rear mount you have to buy the Hardrace rear mount. Hardrace is the OEM supplier for both J's Racing and Spoon when it comes to motor mounts. Hardrace almost never has the individual mount in stock though.

https://www.hardrace.com/Product_detail.asp?id=5274&Car_Make=7&Car_model=18&Car_Type=827&MainType=
 
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Spoon sells it as a set because they can make each mount individually softer than a single rear mount but still offer less engine movement and NVH than a single mount would otherwise cause. They also do it that way because it fits with their "complete" tuning philosophy. The Spoon mount kit is also less likely to raise eyebrows at a dealership because the body of the mount looks very similar to the OE mount.

If you want only the Spoon rear mount you have to buy the Hardrace rear mount. Hardrace is the OEM supplier for both J's Racing and Spoon when it comes to motor mounts. Hardrace almost never has the individual mount in stock though.

https://www.hardrace.com/Product_detail.asp?id=5274&Car_Make=7&Car_model=18&Car_Type=827&MainType=
thank you for the information man. Appreciate it and makes sense. I’m good with my PRL RMM, Airtec and Wunderlsnd Race hahaha I’m going to keep swapping
 

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easiest way to explain EPDM/OEM/PRL style = comfort.

Polyurethane = performance.
  • Want comfort? EPDM.
  • Want tight/sharp feel? Poly.
  • Want both? …good luck, pick your poison lol.
Thanks

What about durability?

I recall reading somewhere that Poly is no as durable as EPDM, and that Poly starts tighter but degrades quicker

I believe that because of that, at least one brand offers replacement Poly bushings

At the time, when I knew less than nothing, that was what made me buy the PRL

Now that I know slightly more, I am questioning my decision…
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