Pedal dance or no pedal dance

[Piibuhh]

Will be going to my second track day. I am a beginner. Would people reccomend i do pedal dance or should i keep everything on. Will be hitting Buttonwillow circut.

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[Rfpauly]

Regarding Pibuuhh's question above, what does the pedal dance do that the long hold on traction control in R mode doesn't do?

 

[KGBM]

I expect the logical thing would be leave everything on 'till you are comfortable pushing on the track, then you can turn stuff off to see if the increased control is worth the lap time gain/loss.

A second camp of thought would be, whatever habits you start with are the habits that may be harder to break, so if you WANT to heal toe all day, do it from the start and learn up with it.

 

[KGBM]

I expect the logical thing would be leave everything on 'till you are comfortable pushing on the track, then you can turn stuff off to see if the increased control is worth the lap time gain/loss.

A second camp of thought would be, whatever habits you start with are the habits that may be harder to break, so if you WANT to heal toe all day, do it from the start and learn up with it.

it doesn't answer your question at all OP, but I've seen both arguments so its really your personal preference.

 

[hotgrilleceleste]

If you don’t it will just roast your rear brakes

 

[hotgrilleceleste]

Regarding Pibuuhh's question above, what does the pedal dance do that the long hold on traction control in R mode doesn't do?

disables the stability control that causes the brakes to automatically do stuff

 

[coolnick]

disables the stability control that causes the brakes to automatically do stuff

I thought it was just to turn everything off and still have the ability to change individual settings so you can keep the dampers in sport mode. Whereas you are stuck in the bouncy setting with the R mode. And I am nearly always wrong fwiw.

 

[hotgrilleceleste]

You can already do that in individual mode?

 

[Cueyo]

I thought it was just to turn everything off and still have the ability to change individual settings so you can keep the dampers in sport mode. Whereas you are stuck in the bouncy setting with the R mode. And I am nearly always wrong fwiw.

Doesn't R mode also force you to use auto rev match? I remember reading that once and just assumed it was the case. I've practiced rev matching for like 4 months now so it's very hard to go to it, but if r mode doesn't auto rev match, I'd turn it on for the pedal dance stuff

 

[Piibuhh]

I expect the logical thing would be leave everything on 'till you are comfortable pushing on the track, then you can turn stuff off to see if the increased control is worth the lap time gain/loss.

A second camp of thought would be, whatever habits you start with are the habits that may be harder to break, so if you WANT to heal toe all day, do it from the start and learn up with it.

Yeah for sure. Just lil but worried of chewing up brakes. Keeping everything on. I will be running csg cp pads.

 

[MooMoo]

I would not do the pedal dance personally. I know a lot of fast people that also don't do the pedal dance. They do long press TC which disables everything but VSA I believe, car still uses brakes to rotate.

Also as far as smoke the rear brakes, yes it does the brakes to rotate but you not going to wear your rear brakes in a few track days, specially as a novice. I am intermediate have have done prob 8 events and pads still fine.

 

[Piibuhh]

I would not do the pedal dance personally. I know a lot of fast people that also don't do the pedal dance. They do long press TC which disables everything but VSA I believe, car still uses brakes to rotate.

Also as far as smoke the rear brakes, yes it does the brakes to rotate but you not going to wear your rear brakes in a few track days, specially as a novice. I am intermediate have have done prob 8 events and pads still fine.

Ohh ok. Thanks

 

[coolnick]

You can already do that in individual mode?

Then I guess I don't know what pedal dance does. Just turn everything off and still allow you to select everything in individual?

 

[Xian]

Yeah, I ran my FL5 in +R with a long press during SCCA’s Targa South. It was ~20 time attack sessions at 4 tracks. Despite running pretty dang quick times, the rear brakes really didn’t get a ton of wear.

Yes, I’m sure there are outliers and maybe an intermediate driver would be just fast enough to tear up some pads but I don’t see this being an issue for a novice doing their first trackday.

 

[Piibuhh]

Ty all for your expertise

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