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ok. Jsut curious because when I watched their video it literally look like all they did was screw it in. Didn’t take a thing off bumper so I was curious how they got under it to put washers and not on if bumper piece never came off

Not installed, hoping to get time in my friend's airconditioned garage on Saturday. With the heat index over 110 every day it's the only way this is going to happen.

As mentioned the hardware has two washers, looking at them I'd opt to do it the same as @arbies did - screw, black washer, bumper, silver washer, nut.
 

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Yeah, I think that's good ole Youtube magic. I mean I'm sure you could use some sheet metal screws and prayer but I'm not going to.
 

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I only had to take this black piece off underneath:

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and then you could get access behind the bumper:

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I tried to use the little holes as a guide to determine where to drill. And then if I remember correctly, on the bottom, I used the screw and black washer, and on the top I used the nut and the silver washer. Some spots were very tight, and in some cases, I drilled closer to the edge of the lip so I had more room to tighten the nut.
I def want to see this in person. I was a bit turned off by the 3 peice design. Do you think it's noticable?
 

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I def want to see this in person. I was a bit turned off by the 3 peice design. Do you think it's noticable?
I definitely don't like that part of the AFD, SPR's is similar but one piece (I think!). But... for the price it makes sense and I can live with it. Since my wife drives it, and may become her daily, I'm leery of a deep or expensive lip, lowering the car much, or fancy wheels. :D
 


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Since my wife drives it, and may become her daily, I'm leery of a deep or expensive lip, lowering the car much, or fancy wheels. :D
You are a wise man. The last time my wife drove my car (previously an ‘09 Si) was in 2015. There is a great reason for this.?
 

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Ok, got mine on today - I need to get decent pics, the quick snaps I took are not worth posting. We all agree it looks good and like it should have just been OEM. If it was a one piece design I'd rate it even better but for about $250 or so it looks good, was pretty easy to install, and doesn't go so low that I need to entirely recalibrate what I can pull in/out of.

How did you guys attach the center section to the bumper? The way the bumper is designed in the center there was nowhere for the bolts to live let alone get to them and they are way too short to even consider just drilling through everything you encounter. The inner body color shell was the issue. Maybe pulling the whole bumper off isn't the worst idea.

We used high end 3M "spoiler" tape on that area and it *should* be fine but... how on earth did they expect it to get bolted in the middle? A better design with some long tabs would fix the issue.
 
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hopefully @Type Gts R can answer the installation questions about the center area.

Ok, got mine on today - I need to get decent pics, the quick snaps I took are not worth posting. We all agree it looks good and like it should have just been OEM. If it was a one piece design I'd rate it even better but for about $250 or so it looks good, was pretty easy to install, and doesn't go so low that I need to entirely recalibrate what I can pull in/out of.

How did you guys attach the center section to the bumper? The way the bumper is designed in the center there was nowhere for the bolts to live let alone get to them and they are way to oshort to even consider just drilling through everything you encounter. The inner body color shell was the issue. Maybe pulling the whole bumper off isn't the worst idea.

We used high end 3M "spoiler" tape on that area and it *should* be fine but... how on earth did they expect it to get bolted in the middle? A better design with some long tabs would fix the issue.
 


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11th Gen Honda Civic New Chin for the R IMG_3994.JPEG


So sounds like you didn’t have to take bumper off then to install? How did you reach the backside to get the nuts on?
Lip looks good btw.
If you scroll back in the thread to post #13 there is a pic of the black, plastic, panel you remove to get access. I think maybe if you do the full bumper removal then you could figure out a way to use bolts across the entire lip - but it sure seems like there just isn't enough room, there is also a bend there that means it's extremely tight space even if the inner bumper wasn't in the way. This could be alleviated by extending the lip farther back/using tabs - in fact doing that across the board would make the lip a bit easier to install, not that it was hard. My only complaint really is that they didn't do it like that.

11th Gen Honda Civic New Chin for the R IMG_3991.JPEG


Fitment is great, lines up perfectly and no visible gaps. With a light under the car you can see a tiny bit of light shine at the area where the lip cuts in and fills the gap in the bumper on either corner. I just looked again outside in daylight and you cannot see this at all as seen in the below pic:

11th Gen Honda Civic New Chin for the R IMG_3990.JPEG
 

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mind if I ask you what 3m spoiler tape you used. Guessing I’ll need to do the same to make sure it holds the center portion. You said install was relatively easy. About how long did it take and did you have help? Thanks for pics.

IMG_3994.JPEG




If you scroll back in the thread there is a pic of the black, plastic, panel you remove to get access. I think maybe if you do the full bumper removal then you could figure out a way to use bolts across the entire lip - but it sure seems like there just isn't enough room, there is also a bend there that means it's extremely tight space even if the inner bumper wasn't in the way. This could be alleviated by extending the lip farther back/using tabs - in fact doing that across the board would make the lip a bit easier to install, not that it was hard. My only complaint really is that they didn't do it like that.

IMG_3991.JPEG


Fitment is great, lines up perfectly and no visible gaps. With a light under the car you can see a tiny bit of light shine at the area where the lip cuts in and fills the gap in the bumper on either corner. I just looked again outside in daylight and you cannot see this at all as seen in the below pic:

IMG_3990.JPEG
 

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I had help, you could do it solo but having another set of hands to wrangle it all would be advised if possible. The main thing for me was access to an air conditioned garage!

We probably took a good 2hrs? I think we should have lifted the front more (we just jacked one corner up) which would have made some of it easier. If you don't have a short depth drill it's mandatory to lift it more than we did. Someone who has done this before could do it in half the time I'm sure.

You want 3M 5952 VHB tape - DO NOT skimp and buy another brand. I repeat DO NOT do that!

What we ended up doing was mounting the fully assembled lip by using 3 bolts on each "wing" and then sliding out the center (loosen the bolts so you have wiggle room). We put tape the entire length of the center (wiped bumper & lip down first) and just peeled one end a little bit so it could be pulled on later. We then slid the center piece back in, screwed it to the two wings, tightened each wing back down, carefully held it to the right spot, and pulled the red backing off. Ran my hand up and down a few times to get a good set and called it a day. Hope that make sense. I went the slower route home so I wouldn't hit too high speeds since these things tend to like some curing time.


Suggested tools:

short Philips
flathead - for removing all the friggin' clips, there are like 20+
short depth drill
11mm open wrench - for holding the lip nuts, I think they are some dumb inch size not metric
10mm socket w extension
3M 5952 VHB tape
2 quick clamps - we started by quick clamping each far end and using some masking tape to keep the center from sagging. Then we added bolts from the outside edge inwards.
 

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Sounds like great instructions to me! Appreciate it.

I had help, you could do it solo but having another set of hands to wrangle it all would be advised if possible. The main thing for me was access to an air conditioned garage!

We probably took a good 2hrs? I think we should have lifted the front more (we just jacked one corner up) which would have made some of it easier. If you don't have a short depth drill it's mandatory to lift it more than we did. Someone who has done this before could do it in half the time I'm sure.

You want 3M 5952 VHB tape - DO NOT skimp and buy another brand. I repeat DO NOT do that!

What we ended up doing was mounting the fully assembled lip by using 3 bolts on each "wing" and then sliding out the center (loosen the bolts so you have wiggle room). We put tape the entire length of the center (wiped bumper & lip down first) and just peeled one end a little bit so it could be pulled on later. We then slid the center piece back in, screwed it to the two wings, tightened each wing back down, carefully held it to the right spot, and pulled the red backing off. Ran my hand up and down a few times to get a good set and called it a day. Hope that make sense. I went the slower route home so I wouldn't hit too high speeds since these things tend to like some curing time.


Suggested tools:

short Philips
flathead - for removing all the friggin' clips, there are like 20+
short depth drill
11mm open wrench - for holding the lip nuts, I think they are some dumb inch size not metric
10mm socket w extension
3M 5952 VHB tape
2 quick clamps - we started by quick clamping each far end and using some masking tape to keep the center from sagging. Then we added bolts from the outside edge inwards.
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