Backup plans - what's yours?

[Boostlag]

It's one the reason I don't mind get the "first run" of the car. They've had that engine since the FK2 model and it's on its third iteration now.

granted FL8 is just a refresh of the FK8, it uses the same chassis, suspension and engine just refined and improved. But it is a first run from a new factory, not even Honda is immune to defects but thats what the warranty is for

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[Robert.C]

I do love that the K20 turbo is tried and true at this point. Makes the FL5 a bit more attractive especially for those who plan on keeping for a long time (forever?) like myself

That's the thing with the Type R, at least for me. It's a forever car that will slot in next to my S2000 to form my humble little Honda collection. I could see the GR Corolla being a forever car, too, for those who buy it. But the Elantra N? I could be wrong, but it just screams "flavor of the month" to me. Nothing against it personally, but it's not even on my radar.

 

[Carmeezy]

Honestly, the new-gen has shown similar issues (VN's and such). Purchasing a new N that hasn't even gone through the paces to see all the gremlins doesn't really bode well when a company is spending ~$10B ONLY on engines annually. DCT's already having a stop sales attached is not making the case for these any better IMO.

As an enthusiast and educated buyer, why would you even potentially want to deal with this hot mess?

Maybe just me, but this looks like a dumpster fire just waiting to be ignited.

Poor choice of words, considering that some of these are literal fire risks ?.

The N models, so far, are unaffected by any engine recalls or bulletins. They just got caught by faulty DCTs though.

These engine replacements go as far as 2022 under varying circumstances. Engine issues did not die with the older models, so who knows what could happen in a couple of months or years. As cool as they are, for me, I’d stay away.

 

[RoidRage]

Poor choice of words, considering that some of these are literal fire risks ?.

The N models, so far, are unaffected by any engine recalls or bulletins. They just got caught by faulty DCTs though.

These engine replacements go as far as 2022 under varying circumstances. Engine issues did not die with the older models, so who knows what could happen in a couple of months or years. As cool as they are, for me, I’d stay away.

LoL oops. The N's are pretty popular in my region, especially the VN. There is massive line ups for either engine fixes or replacements at many of the dealers here also. Which is surprising why recalls for those aren't included. Oh well. But I agree would stay away.

 

[VarmintCong]

The Circuit edition feels about $2k more expensive than it should be... I would've had the Core at $34,500, Circuit at $39,000, and Morizo at $48,000 Thoughts?

The cost for a very low volume manufactured product goes up exponentially, and if you factor in more hand-building (not sure if that's the case), that also increases the cost.

 

[polishedmetalctr]

You can't go wrong with an M2, that could be a collectors piece in the future. Can't even compare gr86 to it, that's not even a sports car. And supra is just a BMW anyway

The GR86 isn't a Sports car? The 2,800 lb RWD manual normally aspirated minimalist GR86 is everything a sports car SHOULD be. While still pulling 5.4 0-60 and in 1/4 mile in the 13s. The heavy computerized M2 has strayed so far from its roots. I like both, just being honest.

 

[katch922]

The GR86 isn't a Sports car? The 2,800 lb RWD manual normally aspirated minimalist GR86 is everything a sports car SHOULD be. While still pulling 5.4 0-60 and in 1/4 mile in the 13s. The heavy computerized M2 has strayed so far from its roots. I like both, just being honest.

Sorry bad wording, I mean stock GR86 is not a track car. You need to update cooling, brakes...and apparently if you drive it too hard engine can blow up if you have some rtv in your oil

 

[Boostlag]

That's the thing with the Type R, at least for me. It's a forever car that will slot in next to my S2000 to form my humble little Honda collection. I could see the GR Corolla being a forever car, too, for those who buy it. But the Elantra N? I could be wrong, but it just screams "flavor of the month" to me. Nothing against it personally, but it's not even on my radar.

until the next type R comes out with MGU technology from their F1 engine like AMG did with their new 4 bangers.

 

[hhkb]

until the next type R comes out with MGU technology from their F1 engine like AMG did with their new 4 bangers.

I would love to see a DRS button on a Honda steering wheel ?

 

[Robert.C]

until the next type R comes out with MGU technology from their F1 engine like AMG did with their new 4 bangers.

New Type Rs just make the old ones even better. DC2, EK9, EP3, FD2... they become more desirable over time, not less. Even now, there is a very dedicated FK8 fanbase.

 

[Boostlag]

New Type Rs just make the old ones even better. DC2, EK9, EP3, FD2... they become more desirable over time, not less. Even now, there is a very dedicated FK8 fanbase.

oh i'm sure there are. I love the first gen and even the bread van. FK8 does absolutely nothing for me.

 

[NoelPR]

Currently drive a 21' Ridgeline RTL-E which was my backup plan when I couldn't find a Type R without an exaggerated markup.

Will see how things look at the end of the lease but here are my options.
-FL5
-Used 21' CTR if their prices go down after the release of the new model.
-Corolla GR base with LSD
-Elantra N
-Buy out the Ridgeline (versatility is unbeatable if boredness is out of the equation?)

 

[hhkb]

After reading Car And Driver's long term review on the current gen Civic Si, I may consider that as a stand-in until I can get a Type R

 

[spectre186]

GRC, but probably will be equally hard to find. Maybe a low mileage STi. Or on the other end of things look for a 996/997 911 if that market cools down.

 

[Toprarnen]

GRC, but probably will be equally hard to find. Maybe a low mileage STi. Or on the other end of things look for a 996/997 911 if that market cools down.

997.2 or bust for me if I headed that route. But the jump from $50-60 => $70-80+ is just nuts. Also, after sitting in one, I'm not sure it checked the right box for me. Maybe I'm just too picky though, given the price. If I can't get the Type R, I'd probably have to save up for a new Cayman or something

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