*The FL5 Track Junkie Thread*

[PointByPatrol]

ahhhh that makes sense, I was like there is tons of space over there. With the dust shield definitely probably doable but would be much bigger pain in the ass. That said I do like your idea of using the rotor to get things back in place. Mine are on the way but too cold over here to do this before spring

The cold holds me back big time. Cutting yourself is so much more common when your skin is tight and cold!

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[svvitch]

My garage has about 2 or 3 more weeks of residual heat before it's too cold to be out there. It's also a freaking mess so I'd have to do that first.

 

[J1Avs]

I've had my front tow strap bolted to the strut tower, I've seen it on a couple of track cars before. Hopefully it's strong enough in case I ever need it.

There's no way a recovery vehicle is ever going to use that. Admittedly, I don't even see how this works? You pop your hood, and leave it latched?

 

[J1Avs]

Stock height. I was able to get the front left to 3.5 and the front right to 3.7.

That's wild on the middle setting. I'm apparently at 3.55* on the most aggressive setting, but with the struts pulled out, rather than pushed in. Honestly, it could still use more, but not trying to have it follow every crack in the street. I really need to get it back on a rack and see what max we can get is.

 

[BigBird]

My garage has about 2 or 3 more weeks of residual heat before it's too cold to be out there. It's also a freaking mess so I'd have to do that first.

well when i wanted to work on A car in the winter, a propane garage heater, was a great investment. turned from 20F to 60F+ in no time.

 

[PointByPatrol]

That's wild on the middle setting. I'm apparently at 3.55* on the most aggressive setting, but with the struts pulled out, rather than pushed in. Honestly, it could still use more, but not trying to have it follow every crack in the street. I really need to get it back on a rack and see what max we can get is.

The 3.5 and 3.7 are on the most aggressive setting with the struts pulled positive. I've gotta swap for the middle today and try to push the strut back negative.

 

[PointByPatrol]

well when i wanted to work on A car in the winter, a propane garage heater, was a great investment. turned from 20F to 60F+ in no time.

I've got too much crap in my garage! The forge will get the garage up to 85 degrees rather quickly, but then sets off the fire alarms upstairs in my house lol! I've found a work around, and I use a box fan to blow on the fire alarm that complains the most, and it'll stay quiet! I may have to reorganize so that I can get my car inside!

 

[PointByPatrol]

Debate question!

A track buddy of mine convinced me that I should remove my 200tw tires for this weekend and use the factory 300tw tires instead because of the cold weather. It's supposed to drop down to the 20's over night, it'll be in the 30's during the first run session, then the high for the day will be in the low 40's by the afternoon. He believes that a 300 all season will heat up and provide grip more easily than a 200. I bucked at the idea at first thinking to myself, "no way 200tw should generate more grip", but there was also the though in the back of my head of what happens to the 200tw tire compound as it sits overnight in the paddock in 20 degree weather.

I got a comment on my YouTube video betting me that 200 is the way to go!

There is also this word of caution from Tire Rack:
"Tires exposed to temperatures of 20 degrees F (-7 degrees C) or lower must be permitted to gradually return to temperatures of at least 40 degrees F (5 degrees C) for at least 24 hours before they are flexed in any manner, such as by adjusting inflation pressures, mounting them on wheels, or using them to support, roll or drive a vehicle."

Thoughts???

 

[BigBird]

Debate question!

A track buddy of mine convinced me that I should remove my 200tw tires for this weekend and use the factory 300tw tires instead because of the cold weather. It's supposed to drop down to the 20's over night, it'll be in the 30's during the first run session, then the high for the day will be in the low 40's by the afternoon. He believes that a 300 all season will heat up and provide grip more easily than a 200. I bucked at the idea at first thinking to myself, "no way 200tw should generate more grip", but there was also the though in the back of my head of what happens to the 200tw tire compound as it sits overnight in the paddock in 20 degree weather.

I got a comment on my YouTube video betting me that 200 is the way to go!

There is also this word of caution from Tire Rack:
"Tires exposed to temperatures of 20 degrees F (-7 degrees C) or lower must be permitted to gradually return to temperatures of at least 40 degrees F (5 degrees C) for at least 24 hours before they are flexed in any manner, such as by adjusting inflation pressures, mounting them on wheels, or using them to support, roll or drive a vehicle."

Thoughts???

If you run v730s I would swap for sure.
71RS and A052 probably could do it, but I think at those temps the PS4S are your best bet.

I myself was thinking of doing a track day in under 40, and was going to use the OEM ones for the ambient temps, but also to wear them down some...they need some use lol

 

[MooMoo]

I would probably go ps4s which are known to actually be decent in colder temps (as far as summer tires go). I had a track day last year that started at high 30s on the 200tw tires and the first laps were terrifying lol, understeer at every corner not even pushing it that much. They were fine when they warmed up but took a sec, then the day warmed up and all was good.

Could also bring both sets, start with the ps4s and then swap to the 200tws in the afternoon

 

[J1Avs]

Debate question!

A track buddy of mine convinced me that I should remove my 200tw tires for this weekend and use the factory 300tw tires instead because of the cold weather. It's supposed to drop down to the 20's over night, it'll be in the 30's during the first run session, then the high for the day will be in the low 40's by the afternoon. He believes that a 300 all season will heat up and provide grip more easily than a 200. I bucked at the idea at first thinking to myself, "no way 200tw should generate more grip", but there was also the though in the back of my head of what happens to the 200tw tire compound as it sits overnight in the paddock in 20 degree weather.

I got a comment on my YouTube video betting me that 200 is the way to go!

There is also this word of caution from Tire Rack:
"Tires exposed to temperatures of 20 degrees F (-7 degrees C) or lower must be permitted to gradually return to temperatures of at least 40 degrees F (5 degrees C) for at least 24 hours before they are flexed in any manner, such as by adjusting inflation pressures, mounting them on wheels, or using them to support, roll or drive a vehicle."

Thoughts???

Send it on the 200TW. Just be methodical about your warm up lap(s). It’ll eventually get too warm and you’ll destroy your All Seasons. Also let’s be real, doing a track day on All Seasons sounds not even worth it

I used to run TrackCross events at Summit Point in the winter (they still host them), and we’d run below freezing with snow on the side of the track on all sorts of 200TW. That’s not even consistent lapping, it’s A-B sprints and then sitting and waiting to go again.

 

[MooMoo]

at least if it was rwd you could have some proper fun

 

[Tougefl5]

Debate question!

A track buddy of mine convinced me that I should remove my 200tw tires for this weekend and use the factory 300tw tires instead because of the cold weather. It's supposed to drop down to the 20's over night, it'll be in the 30's during the first run session, then the high for the day will be in the low 40's by the afternoon. He believes that a 300 all season will heat up and provide grip more easily than a 200. I bucked at the idea at first thinking to myself, "no way 200tw should generate more grip", but there was also the though in the back of my head of what happens to the 200tw tire compound as it sits overnight in the paddock in 20 degree weather.

I got a comment on my YouTube video betting me that 200 is the way to go!

There is also this word of caution from Tire Rack:
"Tires exposed to temperatures of 20 degrees F (-7 degrees C) or lower must be permitted to gradually return to temperatures of at least 40 degrees F (5 degrees C) for at least 24 hours before they are flexed in any manner, such as by adjusting inflation pressures, mounting them on wheels, or using them to support, roll or drive a vehicle."

Thoughts???

I'd put my money on the R&D of billion dollar tire manufacturers rather than a random on youtube who wants to bet lunch money lol

 

[BigBird]

Send it on the 200TW. Just be methodical about your warm up lap(s). It’ll eventually get too warm and you’ll destroy your All Seasons. Also let’s be real, doing a track day on All Seasons sounds not even worth it

I used to run TrackCross events at Summit Point in the winter (they still host them), and we’d run below freezing with snow on the side of the track on all sorts of 200TW. That’s not even consistent lapping, it’s A-B sprints and then sitting and waiting to go again.

Agree with the all-seasons as a no

PS4S as the OEM summers, they handled multiple laps fairly decently at LRP in the 50s. V730s take a while to get to temp, and VIR can be super slippery

 

[J1Avs]

Agree with the all-seasons as a no

PS4S as the OEM summers, they handled multiple laps fairly decently at LRP in the 50s. V730s take a while to get to temp, and VIR can be super slippery

I mean yea, A052 or 71RS would be a better solution than V730. I’ve personally run A052 in the 30’s at VIR with the gators still frosted - and lived to tell about it ?.

Technically PS4S provide the same warning as most 200TW regarding temps for sub-40, but it’s a caveat for the least common denominator and to CYA.

I’d personally just send it. Do a bunch of braking all over on the out lap, test grip and go. I’ve done a few days at Ridge that were 30’s in the morning too on Cup2 and SC3. Twas okay also.

But my own CYA. I am not responsible for any adverse results for taking my recommendations ?

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