Making this car more raw?

[Superhatch]

Don't do everything all at once.

1. Get a stage 2 tune, and see what you think after that.

The tune changes a lot about how the car feels, shifts, responds in a noticeable way and might be all you need without removing the daily drive-ability of the car.

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[jtlctr]

Don't do everything all at once.

1. Get a stage 2 tune, and see what you think after that.

The tune changes a lot about how the car feels, shifts, responds in a noticeable way and might be all you need without removing the daily drive-ability of the car.

I second this. A good custom tune does wonders for this car. It helps a lot with throttle response. Unfortunately, the unavoidable turbo lag is something you have to get used to. I’ve also had to accept that if I try to accelerate hard in 1st and, to a lesser extent, 2nd, I’m going to feel disappointed. FWD traction limitations are a real bummer. But from 3rd gear on, it’s party time, especially after a tune.

 

[damage]

I was going to get the hondata tune but I didn't catch their LA visit. Is it possible to do it myself? Also do I need a PC laptop?

 

[Nothing]

I was going to get the hondata tune but I didn't catch their LA visit. Is it possible to do it myself? Also do I need a PC laptop?

You need to unlock the ECU - this needs to either be done at an event or you mail it in. I think most people wait for an event, and you can work with any tuner afterward, local or remote with e-tuning.

 

[Superhatch]

I was going to get the hondata tune but I didn't catch their LA visit. Is it possible to do it myself? Also do I need a PC laptop?

There are a couple tuning threads and 3 well respected tuners that are active on the boards (maybe more but I usually see those 3).

You'll need:
- Hondata Flash Pro (gets locked to your car until you remove the tune/sell it) ~$800
- Jailbreak your ECU (so it can be flashed, assuming you can't hit a jailbreak tour) ~300
- Laptop (I just have a desktop so I bought a new chromebook online for $150, worked fine)
- OTS (off the shelf) tune file from a tuner. ~$300

So it's about $1500 or so to do the full tune process. If you cant find a jailbreak tour then you'll also need to send in your ECU and plan for about 1-1.5 weeks of the car being down.

There is a good thread up now about the Phearable Stage 2 tune that goes into pretty good detail about what you get from a tune.

https://www.civicxi.com/forum/threa...mpressions-on-stock-type-r.57492/#post-987582

 

[damage]

Ugh I wish hondata would just be able to have customers come to their headquarters to do it. They're in Socal (i'm also in socal). Would I be sending it to them to unlock the ECU or is there someone/somewhere else?

 

[caraholic]

Kind of in the same predicament as your in now. The car does feel good but leaves me a bit dissatisfied when I drive it. I have done the prl mount and to be honest don’t notice any difference. Maybe I will try the has sport one.

Was going to do the prl intake just for the sound.
Rigid collars
Spherical bushing
Stage two tune
Acuity Shifter

didn’t want to do anything with the exhaust as I don’t really want a loud four cylinder. Would be interested in hearing any feed back form you on your upgrades from a former fellow GT owner.

 

[damage]

Kind of in the same predicament as your in now. The car does feel good but leaves me a bit dissatisfied when I drive it. I have done the prl mount and to be honest don’t notice any difference. Maybe I will try the has sport one.

Was going to do the prl intake just for the sound.
Rigid collars
Spherical bushing
Stage two tune
Acuity Shifter

didn’t want to do anything with the exhaust as I don’t really want a loud four cylinder. Would be interested in hearing any feed back form you on your upgrades from a former fellow GT owner.

Yeah I'm going with the hasport race one. Is there such a thing as upgrading to a lightweight flywheel for this car? I see that the hondata tune can remove this "rev hang" problem, but this engine just feels slugglish.


Edit:
Looks like they do sell lightweight flywheel:

https://hp-performances.com/gb/rpc/...y-flywheel-51kg-civic-type-r-fk2-fk8-fl5.html

 

[caraholic]

Yeah I'm going with the hasport race one. Is there such a thing as upgrading to a lightweight flywheel for this car? I see that the hondata tune can remove this "rev hang" problem, but this engine just feels slugglish.

from what I remember hearing in reviews is the car already has a lightweight flywheel from factory. Granted I’m sure after market may have an even lighter one. With this being a turbo motor I don’t see allot of benefit in one though.

I can’t speak for the tune maybe it really opens it up. My problem is I’m coming from a Taycan Turbo so there is now help on my end for this.

 

[damage]

Ummm…why didn’t you just get a carrera 4s or turbo…?

I need rear seats that fit humans with legs... and 4 doors.

 

[damage]

from what I remember hearing in reviews is the car already has a lightweight flywheel from factory. Granted I’m sure after market may have an even lighter one. With this being a turbo motor I don’t see allot of benefit in one though.

I can’t speak for the tune maybe it really opens it up. My problem is I’m coming from a Taycan Turbo so there is now help on my end for this.

From the youtube videos on people's reaction after the tune, it looks like it improves throttle response and probably changes the torque curve a bit.

 

[ctechauto]

Our shop track car is a Cayman and shop development car is the FL5. Can you explain more about what you mean by "raw"? They are entirely different vehicles.

 

[Tougefl5]

This car is my extra "fun" car that needs 4 seats in case my dailies ever break down. Usually my fun cars in the past have been 2 seat sports cars (gt3, gt4, gt3rs, r8, 570s, etc) but I've got 2 kids that always need to get driven around these days, hence the 4 seater need. My criteria was something with 4 seats/doors, manual, handle well, holds value, and cheap. So that's the background...

Now.. how do I make this car feel more raw? It drives way too mundane. The engine responsiveness feels sluggish. Any way to liven that up? In the manual porsche world, you can get a lightweight flywheel and that lets the engine rev freely and fast. Is there such a thing available for this engine? I plan to get a tune to at least give this car some more grunt. Other mod plans was to get the motor mount to get more feedback and supposed responsiveness. I also was thinking removing some of the sound deadening. I've already unplugged the stupid fake engine noises. I'm still on the fence for exhaust also. I haven't seen anything that looks good, lightweight, and doesn't sound like a flappy lawnmower revving.

Or am I chasing a dream here?

After owing 1k hp evo, procharged zo6 and a viper I thought fl5 was boring in stock form. You are going to have to build your car and that's the truth. The fun is had at 400+ and upgrading the suspension makes it all worth it. If you're use to having a certain level of performance a basic bolt on fl5 ain't going to do it for you. Once you build it that's where the magic happens.

 

[Clark_Kent]

There are a couple tuning threads and 3 well respected tuners that are active on the boards (maybe more but I usually see those 3).

You'll need:
- Hondata Flash Pro (gets locked to your car until you remove the tune/sell it) ~$800
- Jailbreak your ECU (so it can be flashed, assuming you can't hit a jailbreak tour) ~300
- Laptop (I just have a desktop so I bought a new chromebook online for $150, worked fine)
- OTS (off the shelf) tune file from a tuner. ~$300

So it's about $1500 or so to do the full tune process. If you cant find a jailbreak tour then you'll also need to send in your ECU and plan for about 1-1.5 weeks of the car being down.

There is a good thread up now about the Phearable Stage 2 tune that goes into pretty good detail about what you get from a tune.

https://www.civicxi.com/forum/threa...mpressions-on-stock-type-r.57492/#post-987582

Good summary. One note on the bold section - down time can be as little 3 days if Nextday Air is selected. You have plenty of options in TSP (via IMW or direct through IMW), Hondata, 1:1 Tuning, Phearable, and others.

 

[Chilly613]

Ugh I wish hondata would just be able to have customers come to their headquarters to do it. They're in Socal (i'm also in socal). Would I be sending it to them to unlock the ECU or is there someone/somewhere else?

You could always get the ECU unlocked by Hondata at H-Day.



https://www.hday.com/

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