Lane Keep CTR

[Djseto]

Radar cruise and lane keep suck on the Type R. Looked through the menu to try and turn off the radar portion of cruise but didn’t see anything. Anyone know if it can be turned off so I can just have normal cruise control?

ACC is bad for you? I think the opposite. Both work very well in my FL5 compared to MANY other systems I've been used before. I dont think you can do old school cruise though. My Jeep GC has the option for both but my CTR and wife's Odyssey do not.

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[RacingManiac]

I drive a lot of the GM cars for work and also benchmarked our competitor's vehicle(I am not working in cruise control but have had to drive cars for long distance on public roads so have used them in real world settings). Honda's ACC and Lane keep in my FL5 is pretty abysmal to how I drive. The following distance set at the lowest still is way too far, and it is very eager to grab brake to slow down for anything even perceived to be in your lane. And won't accelerate up to cruise speed readily even when the lane clears up. I basically only ever use ACC when I know the road will be relatively free of traffic and even then I am always ready to disengage it. I can set the ACC on a GM pickup or something(even older ones like K2 platform from mid-2010s) and not having to touch it for 3-4 hours.

 

[TypeRD]

@RacingManiac GM is my point of reference too. When we’ve rented big GM SUV’s (family vacations) I’ve always been impressed with the cruise control and safety technology. It all works very well.

Not sure why other manufacturers’ systems aren’t as refined, but my guess is that it may have something to do with GM making the most popular large SUV’s. It’s clear they’ve put a lot of effort into make these 6000 lb vehicles drivable, safe, and comfortable. I’m sure this technology trickles down the line.

 

[ThreeD]

ACC is bad for you? I think the opposite. Both work very well in my FL5 compared to MANY other systems I've been used before. I dont think you can do old school cruise though. My Jeep GC has the option for both but my CTR and wife's Odyssey do not.

you can do old school cruise. You can hold the distance button I believe and you can switch modes. I forget exactly which button it is but it is pretty easy to access.

 

[CTR]

I've been pretty impressed with the FL5 Adaptive Cruise Control and other safety features in my limited freeway driving. I would say it works slightly better than the system in my older school 2020 GX460. I do get error messages when the front windshield is fogged up on rainy days occasionally.

In both vehicles the systems work good enough for me to reduce driver fatigue and still have confidence in the safety.

Neither were designed to be Autopilot in a Telsa. I'm not sure what more you guys were expecting.

 

[RacingManiac]

Expecting it to do as well as a 10 years old GM truck is not exactly high expectation....

Granted, my FK8 had nothing. So I guess thats something.

 

[Djseto]

Expecting it to do as well as a 10 years old GM truck is not exactly high expectation....

Granted, my FK8 had nothing. So I guess thats something.

what do you think yours does wrong? I’ve had A LOT of cars with these systems and this is easily one of the best. Zero chance it’s worse than a 10 year old truck system unless something is legit malfunctioning.

 

[RacingManiac]

I think objectively it doesn't do anything "wrong" per se. It slows down when it thinks there is a car in your lane and get back up to speed when it does not. It just does it really poorly. It is overly sensitive to object in the next lane especially in like gentle bend, and the distance is way too far, so people cut in front of your because the gap is big. It also doesn't try to coast to a lower speed and more often than not uses the brake to do that. And since the follow distance is really far, it needs the lane to be completely clear before it will try to get back up to set speed. Its basically useless when there are a lot of traffic around....

 

[TypeRD]

Yep. Overall it’s fine. But in some situations could definitely be better. I turn it off in those situations where there’s a lot of traffic. It makes me nervous (especially the false detection braking). I was in our MDX with my family on a fairly recent trip. It detected a vehicle in our lane, but it was actually a semi in the other lane while going around a bend. The vehicle momentarily hit the brakes HARD at highway speed. If someone was riding my tail, we probably would’ve gotten in a wreck. I’ve experienced this once in my FL5 too. It’s not confidence inspiring.

This all goes to say, I don’t trust the system and feel safer with it off at times.

 

[ThreeD]

In a lot of situations, old school cruise works better.

Here's how you do it
1. Turn cruise master switch on
2. Hold distance button.
3. It'll beep and go "Cruise mode activated"
4. Set your speed and go about as usual.

If you want to go back to ACC mode, just hold the distance button again (as long as cruise control is not actively being used) until it beeps and says "ACC mode active".

 

[RacingManiac]

Oh I know how to switch modes, I know how to switch modes in all the cars with ACC because some as this doesn't work that great. I commute normally in just dumb cruise because it just can't cope with traffic adequately trust it not to have someone just rear end you at some point.

If you used a car with a decent ACC function, note it doesn't even have to be anything remotely as clever as the latest Autopilot or whatever, you'll know how poor the Honda implementation is. I've driven most of the GM system from ones in K2xx(mid-2010s) GM trucks/SUV to their latest in the EVs(when its working). You can set to a speed, it will try to get to that speed when it can following at a reasonable distance, and it can come to a complete stop and get back up to speed again. That our cars can't do because we have manual, but the GM one doesn't slam on the brake when it doesn't call for it or just kept going slowly until the car is completely out of the way in front of it. I can convoy with other cars, with the GM stuff at work, set it 5mph faster than the convoy speed, and it follows the car in front's speed, and when I change lane if a car comes into the gap, the car will accelerate to that 5 over speed so I can pass, merge back in lane and it slows down gradually again to the 5 below speed without slamming on the brake when I do that. Honda's system feels like it just wants to get to a set distance away from something as fast as possible and its just jerky and not like how a human would drive a car. And being unpredictable to another human actually makes it less safe because people don't know how to react to you. And they barely know as it is...

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