Honda CF Wing specs?

[madbikes]

So what did you torque the bolts to?

I used a torque wrench, tighten to 6.5 lb-ft.

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[TW00Si]

Just giving my input. I torqued to the 6.5 lb-ft amount with the OEM hardware.

I picked up the locking hardware from TSP and had an issue with the bit snapping and almost stripping out the head of one of the screws at around 5.5 lb-ft. That is so little force, there must have been a mfg defect in the security driver bit I had. Seems like an isolated issue, but TSP are revising their instructions to indicate a 4.5 lb-ft torque setting I believe.

It was a bummer when it happened, but TSP service is awesome and has made everything right.

So one stripped only? Was it user error or cheap product? Looking to get the CF wing also and might get these locking bolts.

 

[Bazgab]

So one stripped only? Was it user error or cheap product? Looking to get the CF wing also and might get these locking bolts.

One almost stripped as I said, it is still usable and I was able to remove it without issue. I mean it can always be user error but I have been wrenching on cars a long time so IMO that isn't it. I used the correct tools and the MFG recommended torque specs. I think my issue was purely a mfg defect in the security driver.

I received the replacement screws and security bit from TSP and installed them just fine. I would only go to 4 ft-lbs max, they are very snug even at that small amount of torque. That or just carefully hand tighten until snug.

 

[TW00Si]

One almost stripped as I said, it is still usable and I was able to remove it without issue. I mean it can always be user error but I have been wrenching on cars a long time so IMO that isn't it. I used the correct tools and the MFG recommended torque specs. I think my issue was purely a mfg defect in the security driver.

I received the replacement screws and security bit from TSP and installed them just fine. I would only go to 4 ft-lbs max, they are very snug even at that small amount of torque. That or just carefully hand tighten until snug.

Thank you for the quick response. Mulling over the cf wing and will get these locking screws if I do.

 

[BuntaTypeR]

I’ve often wondered about vortex generators as seen on early Mitsubishi Lancer EVOs (circa Gen VIII MR or earlier), Subaru WRX STIs, and most recently on the underside of the Type R carbon wings. Virtually every vehicle uses them in some form or another on side mirrors, tail lights, and even small ridges on FL5 door handles. The idea of disrupting a vehicle’s aerodynamic surface layer is the same as those used on airplanes. When I saw a set of 10 very inexpensive, gloss black VGs with 3M adhesive, I decided to place some on the rear roofline of my FL5 just for grins. After several runs with between all 10 and just 4, I discovered that the best placement was 4 equally spaced VGs at the top edge of the hatch’s blacked-out glass. There, they seemed to reduce wind noise the most based upon highly subjective listening, but I still wasn’t convinced that they provided anything significant in terms of altering the boundary layer, until I drive through a brief rain storm. Compared to driving in the rain without the VGs, the rear glass cleared itself of rain much faster (didn’t even need the wiper) and was significantly cleaner afterwards. I know that’s not a scientific test, but it does seem to suggest an effect on the aerodynamics. Whether or not it’s significant (e.g., lift/drag ratio) is undetermined, but because they’re so easy to remove (with dental floss), I may leave them on although they do look a bit out of place.

I’ve also searched for a downforce measurement of the standard FL5 wing. All that I could find was that “it’s more efficient than the previous model” according to Honda engineers, and was 66 lbs. at 124 mph (https://www.cars.com/articles/2017-honda-civic-type-r-whats-up-with-the-wing-1420697626310/). In reality, I doubt the standard rear wing adds any significant downforce under 55-60 mph, but may well shine where the FL5 is more at home - the track.

Where did you get the VG? Amazon?

 

[TheFactor]

Bump ! Love my Oem CF wing it’s the frosting on the cake looks so nice and get many compliments. Found this thread for torques specs since when I got mine I just did it by feel . So figured I’d better check even though I used a little blue loctite just to be safe . Anyway just checked with a recently acquired torque wrench they still were tight and probably about 4 ft pounds until I went to the recommended 6.5.
Sexy wing and I like waxing it almost as much as I do looking at it ?

 

[suspect]

would anyone have a part number for the six attaching T25 bolts? I semi-stripped one and I’d like to replace it. I inquired with the parts department at my local dealership and the worker insisted the bolts by themselves cannot be purchased, and to receive one, I would need to buy an entire stock spoiler assembly with the wing.

I’m having difficulty believing that. Totally unreasonable. Can anyone help?

 

[getRIGHT]

An update to Drift King’s impressions of the wing. He has now driven it at full speed and also revealed he helped in its design with Honda Modulo

 

[TheFactor]

He has a rather soft accent hard to understand at times
All kidding aside great find ))
Thanks man I’m ready to take a few laps with mine

 

[getRIGHT]

It makes for good practice if nothing else.

can’t wait to see your impressions of it

 

[TypeRD]

would anyone have a part number for the six attaching T25 bolts? I semi-stripped one and I’d like to replace it. I inquired with the parts department at my local dealership and the worker insisted the bolts by themselves cannot be purchased, and to receive one, I would need to buy an entire stock spoiler assembly with the wing.

I’m having difficulty believing that. Totally unreasonable. Can anyone help?

There’s no way that’s correct. That’s like saying you need to buy a new wheel because you lost a lug nut.

 

[getRIGHT]

I’m having difficulty believing that. Totally unreasonable. Can anyone help?

Twostepperformance offers a set of locking bolts on their site. You can replace them and have a little piece of mind
https://www.twostepperformance.com/products/tsp-fl5-spoiler-security-locking-screw-kit

 

[suspect]

There’s no way that’s correct. That’s like saying you need to buy a new wheel because you lost a lug nut.

The guy, who seemed to run the parts department was insistent this was the case. I'm relaying the same thoughts you just shared, like there is no way this can be. He became quite upset when pressed and claimed to have called Honda directly to confirm it.

I went down the wormhole as best I could and cannot find any part. I thought it was 90106-T60-J00 at first - wrong. Was a small silver bolt/washer for something else. Found the suggestion on this fb group comment. Honestly the whole ordeal has me quite pissed.

 

[suspect]

Twostepperformance offers a set of locking bolts on their site. You can replace them and have a little piece of mind
https://www.twostepperformance.com/products/tsp-fl5-spoiler-security-locking-screw-kit

I saw those locking ones, and I also like these dress up bolts, but to be told SOL to replace one is wild.

 

[TheFactor]

The guy, who seemed to run the parts department was insistent this was the case. I'm relaying the same thoughts you just shared, like there is no way this can be. He became quite upset when pressed and claimed to have called Honda directly to confirm it.

I went down the wormhole as best I could and cannot find any part. I thought it was 90106-T60-J00 at first - wrong. Was a small silver bolt/washer for something else. Found the suggestion on this fb group comment. Honestly the whole ordeal has me quite pissed.

@getRIGHT has the best idea

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