2025 Civic Type R - No Additions / Changes for 2025

[CTR]

I was thinking about this today. I think there is a very good chance there will be no changes to the Type R for 2026 with the exception of a Limited Edition version in Phoenix Yellow and with some extra wheels/accessories.

It doesn't really make sense for a manufacturer to do a facelift for one or two model years...

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[onepointsix]

I still think it’s done after this 25 MY, with the exception of a limited LE maybe for 26.

 

[Nikw91]

Why do a lot of people say the FL5 is only a 3 year production? What source or info brought that about?

The only one thing that I could possibly see that would have Honda stop producing FL5s after this year is some Japanese Engine Restriction Laws that take place in 2026… but I did research and couldn’t find much info on that either.

 

[CTR]

Why do a lot of people say the FL5 is only a 3 year production? What source or info brought that about?

2026 would be a 4 year run for the FL5. Which is already the fifth MY of the 11th gen Civic. The 10th gen Civic lasted from 2016-2021 which was a 6 year run. I know a pandemic happened that might have changed things a bit but probably not. The 11th gen is more of an iteration of the 10th gen than a full chassis redesign.

There is no way the FL5 goes beyond 2027 hence my comment about a 1-2 year facelift seems too expensive for what it is worth.

 

[Nikw91]

2026 would be a 4 year run for the FL5. Which is already the fifth MY of the 11th gen Civic. The 10th gen Civic lasted from 2016-2021 which was a 6 year run. I know a pandemic happened that might have changed things a bit but probably not. The 11th gen is more of an iteration of the 10th gen than a full chassis redesign.

There is no way the FL5 goes beyond 2027 hence my comment about a 1-2 year facelift seems too expensive for what it is worth.

I agree with you. It is shocking they didn’t make any changes yet. But then again, any changes will probably mean a bigger price hike like in 2020.

 

[onepointsix]

Might only be specific to the Canadian market, but it was rumoured in summer 2022, that Canada was to received around 550 units over a 3 year period. Based on recent numbers and just the lack of supply, it appears the rumour was true. One of our forum members recently counted Canadas unit total up to September 2024 at about 470ish.

 

[CTR]

I agree with you. It is shocking they didn’t make any changes yet. But then again, any changes will probably mean a bigger price hike like in 2020.

It's a really good car with minimal areas to improve without a large cost increase. The fact that it's still commanding ADM in many markets 2+ years after launch is a testament to that. You can't say the same for the GRC or really any other cars released in the same time period.

I personally did expect to see some interior changes at minimum and was surprised that 2025 didn't get any of those. I'd be willing to bet 2026 is the last MY and probably the release of the LE with some weight saving changes at minimum.

Then it's the promised hybrid Type R in 2028...

 

[Nikw91]

It's a really good car with minimal areas to improve without a large cost increase. The fact that it's still commanding ADM in many markets 2+ years after launch is a testament to that. You can't say the same for the GRC or really any other cars released in the same time period.

I personally did expect to see some interior changes at minimum and was surprised that 2025 didn't get any of those. I'd be willing to bet 2026 is the last MY and probably the release of the LE with some weight saving changes at minimum.

Then it's the promised hybrid Type R in 2028...

So 2027 will be a gap year like 2022?

 

[CTR]

So 2027 will be a gap year like 2022?

This is just my theory which is as good as anyone else's. If 2027 is a new generation of Civic then I expect it will be a gap year for the Type R like it has been the last two generations. These decisions are probably being made right now and could be impacted by global politics. It's been committed by Honda that their next gen Type R will most likely be a hybrid automatic. It's possible that this gets kicked down the road due to the elections and lack of interest in electric cars at this time.

This kind of stuff is decided 1-2+ years in advance because of all of the moving pieces of global production.

If you're on the fence and really want to get an FL5 before MSRP or ADM increases (interest rates keep going down) you should probably pull the trigger soon.

 

[JCZ5]

With global uncertainty about full EV / hybrid push, why not for Honda and other manufactures to keep this model for another year or two? Very minimal cost and the drive to have regular face lifts aren't necessary with the demand for pure ICE engines. You already see other manufactures doing the same thing and making time between face lifts longer, or just doing minor changes and have multiple "face lifts".

I am still on the fence and probably will make a decision once I know for sure this gen of FL5 will be faded away.

 

[TypeRD]

@JCZ5 There really isn’t much uncertainty about the hybrid push. EV’s…yeah…I don’t see them taking over the world any time soon.

Honda is already pushing hybrids across the board. Even Porsche hybridized the most traditional sports car, the 911. Honda’s head engineer has also said that he feels he has pushed the K20C1 as far as possible while maintaining reliability. This doesn’t mean that the next Type R will definitely be a hybrid, but it probably will be unless a different/better, scalable, technology comes along in the next couple of years. Let’s face it, hybrids have become much more accepted as a way to get higher performance too. The 2nd gen NSX is proof that Honda can make a badass hybrid and the old CR-Z is proof that they can fit a hybrid with a manual transmission. I think the writing is on the wall and Honda has done their homework.

Regarding additional facelifts, that’s not what Honda does. They do a facelift. It stays in production 2-3 years, then they roll out the all new, improved, model. Again, I’m not saying they can’t or won’t do additional facelifts to the same car, but they’ve never done that before. To remain competitive, they kind of can’t. People continually want new cars like they want new phones. And if manufacturers don’t oblige, then they lose. There are outliers like the Dodge Charger and Challenger, the Nissan GTR and the Z of course. Note that Stellantis and Nissan aren’t exactly known for outstanding business planning these days either.

Anyway…just adding to the speculation. Don’t wait too long if you want a new FL5.

 

[JCZ5]

@TypeRD fair points and thank you for your insights. It is going to be an interesting period and looking forward to see what Honda does. Maybe the Type R will be Honda’s “911” and they will keep it non hybrid like the non-GTS models.

Although, I keep hearing hybrids does torque fill so maybe it is a better option to decrease the classic turbo lag.

 

[spectre186]

As cool as it would be for our cars values if 2025 is the last model year, I definitely agree that it would be too short of a model run. I’d expect another 2 years.

 

[CTR]

Something I thought of recently in regards to the new model year. Does anyone think the impending tariffs from the new administration will have any impact on the MSRP for the 2026 Type R? It's the only Civic that's made in Japan.

I have no idea if Japan is even targeted but the uncertainty could be a reason they kill the last year or at the very least inflate the price to make sure they aren't impacted. Maybe they'll reduce the US allocation and give it to Canada?!

A 25% tariff is no joke on a $45K car...

 

[TypeRD]

Something I thought of recently in regards to the new model year. Does anyone think the impending tariffs from the new administration will have any impact on the MSRP for the 2026 Type R? It's the only Civic that's made in Japan.

I have no idea if Japan is even targeted but the uncertainty could be a reason they kill the last year or at the very least inflate the price to make sure they aren't impacted. Maybe they'll reduce the US allocation and give it to Canada?!

A 25% tariff is no joke on a $45K car...

I think, if anything, the tariffs may affect the prices of the normal Civics (among other cars and parts) that are made in Mexico. If that happens, then we can expect dealerships to continue with ADMs on the CTR to keep the pricing structure consistent across the line.

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