The FL5 Dealer ADM Markup Thread

[superporpoise]

I bought one at MSRP in OK and shipping it to OR!

I'd definitely recommend looking out of state for those of us on the West Coast — this makes two this month in the middle of the country that I've been able to buy for MSRP (passed the first on to a member here and then regretted it so I bought this one).

Shipping is surprisingly inexpensive — like $1,200 for open or $1,700 for enclosed.

Sponsored

 

[007]

In today's world, for better or worse, fun and engaging cars with low-volume manual transmissions are in high demand. This typically results in one of two scenarios: either the price of the car is significantly marked up, or it's completely sold out. It's hard to say which is more frustrating. Take the GR Yaris, for example: it has been sold out worldwide since its debut. In the UK, some customers who placed orders in 2021 are only just now receiving their cars, enduring over two years of waiting since securing their allocation for the vehicle to be built. True story.

 

[SKINNIE]

@Clark_Kent

I am willing to pay ADM, but anything more than 10% of MSRP reaches my limit. I asked all dealerships if they would accept an offer with $5000 ADM, and the R performance package ($5350) only. I got a lot resistance and no takers. For some reason, Honda dealers cringe at the idea of Honda accessories. I didn't find anyone who knew about the option for reduced mass wheels and a carbon wing! I find the obstinance to sell the accessories odd, but the lack of knowledge not very surprising. The Honda accessories most likely don't provide the return they get with the cheap accessories they pick and tack on. Anyway, that's when I folded my cards and decided to postpone.

Buy out of state and have it shipped to you. Cali isn't the only state in the US

 

[RUNN1N]

I don’t think Honda has received enough negative feedback to reach a critical mass and to get them to take action. As long as people pay the high prices the market will deliver, and we are accepting the conditions of the sale.

As soon as you spend a dollar in a dealership with slimy sales tactics/markup, you're endorsing their business practices and helping them to employ them on future customers. I can appreciate your frustration, California seems to be the toughest place to get a Type-R at a fair price.

That said, you do have a few options:

• Expand your search radius--there are a handful of MSRP/low-markup dealerships nationwide that'll sell to out-of-state buyers. Get on a few lists, put down some refundable deposits, be patient, and wait it out.
• Consider an Integra Type-S--you may still need to look beyond California, but the DE5 seems somewhat easier to find at MSRP vs the FL5. Granted, they're different. I get it. I've owned both. You can't go wrong either way.
• Keep arguing with California dealers/hassling Honda--it's your time, spend it how you will, but driving a FL5/DE5 will likely be more satisfying.

 

[Clark_Kent]

Buy out of state and have it shipped to you. Cali isn't the only state in the US

This. Baffling that people waste their time arguing with those dealerships in CA. This isn't 1971. Exercise a little ingenuity and look elsewhere. Just pick up the phone and/or hop online and begin emailing dealerships.

 

[Madrid1712]

I bought one at MSRP in OK and shipping it to OR!

I'd definitely recommend looking out of state for those of us on the West Coast — this makes two this month in the middle of the country that I've been able to buy for MSRP (passed the first on to a member here and then regretted it so I bought this one).

Shipping is surprisingly inexpensive — like $1,200 for open or $1,700 for enclosed.

Is there any way I could DM you for some assistance in locating one to ship out here as well? I'm also from Portland and iv been to every dealer here I was at the local one yesterday and got laughed out at the dealer for trying to make them budge on the 10k markup they had. Oh, and the cherry on top was it was a "December special" because they originally wanted 15k over instead of 10k.....
Not to mention it was a 23' and they had a USED 23 on the lot listed for 51 so they essentially are admitting the cars aren't worth the 10k markup

 

[Dream3r]

Heads up... Voss Honda in Tipp City Ohio has an incoming allocation of a 24 championship white FL5. Ask for Anthony in New Car Sales.

MSRP with no add ons.

This one JUST SOLD. I missed it by a day.

 

[nas1428]

Is there any way I could DM you for some assistance in locating one to ship out here as well? I'm also from Portland and iv been to every dealer here I was at the local one yesterday and got laughed out at the dealer for trying to make them budge on the 10k markup they had. Oh, and the cherry on top was it was a "December special" because they originally wanted 15k over instead of 10k.....
Not to mention it was a 23' and they had a USED 23 on the lot listed for 51 so they essentially are admitting the cars aren't worth the 10k markup

If you’re willing to make the drive, Honda of Sumner (about -45 mins South of Seattle) will have a CW with an ETA before the end of the year. It’s not as good of a deal as the East coast, but the ADM is at $6k. No dealer fluff added such as LoJack or misc protection packages.

Call and negotiate a deal ahead of time and ask them to text a copy of the purchase agreement before driving in. Call and ask for Fidel.

 

[Dream3r]

If anyone wants this go for it!

 

[Yorkman1]

If anyone wants this go for it!

at least its close to the airport.

 

[superporpoise]

Is there any way I could DM you for some assistance in locating one to ship out here as well? I'm also from Portland and iv been to every dealer here I was at the local one yesterday and got laughed out at the dealer for trying to make them budge on the 10k markup they had. Oh, and the cherry on top was it was a "December special" because they originally wanted 15k over instead of 10k.....
Not to mention it was a 23' and they had a USED 23 on the lot listed for 51 so they essentially are admitting the cars aren't worth the 10k markup

Oregon dealers suck so much.

Norm Reeves in TX just offered me their 2023 SGP for MSRP + $2,000 in accessories + shipping if that's interesting to you (or anyone else in the thread).

But yeah feel free to DM me anytime! Happy to help if I can.

 

[MikeyMike]

how come Norm Reeves in SoCal suck so much.

 

[superporpoise]

how come Norm Reeves in SoCal suck so much.

The one in TX sucks too. I think they're just willing to deal on the one '23 they have.

 

[Madrid1712]

If you’re willing to make the drive, Honda of Sumner (about -45 mins South of Seattle) will have a CW with an ETA before the end of the year. It’s not as good of a deal as the East coast, but the ADM is at $6k. No dealer fluff added such as LoJack or misc protection packages.

Call and negotiate a deal ahead of time and ask them to text a copy of the purchase agreement before driving in. Call and ask for Fidel.

I appreciate the lead! I think that might still be a little high for me price-wise.

 

[Bean]

I work at a Honda dealership near Pittsburgh, we have a 24 Boost blue due in soon, ETA was 12-15 so expect it soon. Last one we asked $2k over MSRP assuming this one will be the same. Also no add ons, MSRP +2. Been doing this 3 years never sold a CTR yet or an SI for that matter and not gonna lie would love to sell one. Car guy who takes a lot of flack working here, I have a 2020 Supra and 1992 MR2 lol.

Sponsored