PRL Motorsports 1.5T FMIC Kit Development

[PRL Motorsports]

Then asymmetrical it is! Thanks for the response. Looks real good guys.

Thank you!

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[Akalawur77]

Yes, though this is there for duct work to help promote optimal air flow.

More updates! Our prototype is complete! We will be testing next week! All piping will come standard powdercoated textured black.

Looks very promising, I love getting full kits with the charge piping! Any ideas for pricing or group buys?

 

[JDM_DOHC_SiR]

Looks very promising, I love getting full kits with the charge piping! Any ideas for pricing or group buys?

 

[PRL Motorsports]

FMIC Friday? Finally we have some dyno testing and data for you guys!

Here is an overall comparison from what we have gathered thus far with our 2017 Civic Si in terms of gains. We chose the dyno runs to compare because these are all 4th gear pulls with identical coolant temps and knock values (~55%). All of these pulls are untuned and using the factory Honda ECU mapping.

• 100% Stock Civic Si Baseline: 186 hp & 215 ft/lbs tq
• 100% Stock Civic Si + Stage 1 Intake: 191 hp & 216 ft/lbs tq
• 100% Stock Civic Si + Stage 1 Intake + Catted DP/FP Combo: 207 hp & 221 ft/lbs tq
• 100% Stock Civic Si + Stage 1 Intake + Catted DP/FP Combo + FMIC Kit: 216 hp & 224 ft/lbs tq

In other words we gained 9 hp and 3 ft/lbs tq by simply bolting on our FMIC kit in comparison to the factory intercooler setup.

Before anyone says it, we already know somebody is going to say, "OMG that's it?" Let's take a bigger look at this.

Here are three back-to-back (all runs within 2 minutes of each other) 4th gear dyno pulls with the stock intercooler, our Stage 1 Intake and catted downpipe/front pipe combo. As stated in an earlier thread, this car HATES 4th Gear dyno pulls from the factory. Notice the power loss from heatsoak during these back-to-back dyno pulls. This heatsoak only gets worse on hotter days or during even more extreme conditions like extended spirited driving and racing.

Run 6:

• Knock Value 55%
• Coolant Temp: 178 F Start / 189 F End
• IAT Pre IC: 99 F Start / 100 F End
• IAT Post IC: 99 F Start / 124 F End

Run 7:

• Knock Value 55%
• Coolant Temp: 190 F Start / 212 F End
• IAT Pre IC: 102 F Start / 102 F End
• IAT Post IC: 115 F Start / 138 F End

Run 8:

• Knock Value 55%
• Coolant Temp: 200 F Start / 228 F End
• IAT Pre IC: 107 F Start / 108 F End
• IAT Post IC: 126 F Start / 156 F End

Here are three back-to-back (all runs within 2 minutes of each other) 4th gear pulls of the same car, but with our FMIC kit added. The car responded MUCH better to repeated abuse and testing; heatsoak was drastically reduced.

Run 6:

• Knock Value 55%
• Coolant Temp: 181 F Start / 201 F End
• IAT Pre IC: 96 F Start / 96 F End
• IAT Post IC: 90 F Start / 99 F End

Run 7:

• Knock Value 55%
• Coolant Temp: 196 F Start / 217 F End
• IAT Pre IC: 100 F Start / 102 F End
• IAT Post IC: 95 F Start / 104 F End

Run 8:

• Knock Value 55%
• Coolant Temp: 199 F Start / 218 F End
• IAT Pre IC: 105 F Start / 99 F End
• IAT Post IC: 96 F Start / 106 F End

All dyno testing was performed on the same day. We saw as much as a 50 degree drop or an average of 36 degrees in post intercooler intake air temps on stock ECU mapping by simply swapping out intercooler setups. These results will only be amplified when running more boost via ECU tuning. More boost out of a tiny turbocharger = higher temps. Higher temps = increased chances of knock/detonation, thus limiting power and reliability.

Though the power gains may seem minimal on a stock or near stock car running factory boost levels, gains become much greater when turning the boost up and pushing things to the max. Aftermarket intercoolers are intended to reduce post intercooler intake air temps as much as possible to make the engine and forced induction system as efficient as possible, thus drastically improving engine/component longevity. We expect our Cobra CAI system to compliment this FMIC quite well in an effort to reduce intake air temps even more!

 

[PRL Motorsports]

Some teaser pics! Production intercooler piping will be powdercoated textured black.

 

[jsanz]

You guys are awesome! Truly plan to completely "PRL" my Si. Keep up the good work!

 

[bmbpenguin]

So your results show stock intercooler is actually raising the temperature of the intake air? Also, are you willing to share the PID codes for the IAT pre and post IC? i'd like to program that into my Torque app and see what mine is running. thanks.

Run 6:

• Knock Value 55%
• Coolant Temp: 178 F Start / 189 F End
• IAT Pre IC: 99 F Start / 100 F End
• IAT Post IC: 99 F Start / 124 F End

Run 7:

• Knock Value 55%
• Coolant Temp: 190 F Start / 212 F End
• IAT Pre IC: 102 F Start / 102 F End
• IAT Post IC: 115 F Start / 138 F End

Run 8:

• Knock Value 55%
• Coolant Temp: 200 F Start / 228 F End
• IAT Pre IC: 107 F Start / 108 F End
• IAT Post IC: 126 F Start / 156 F End

 

[PRL Motorsports]

So your results show stock intercooler is actually raising the temperature of the intake air? Also, are you willing to share the PID codes for the IAT pre and post IC? i'd like to program that into my Torque app and see what mine is running. thanks.

Run 6:

• Knock Value 55%
• Coolant Temp: 178 F Start / 189 F End
• IAT Pre IC: 99 F Start / 100 F End
• IAT Post IC: 99 F Start / 124 F End

Run 7:

• Knock Value 55%
• Coolant Temp: 190 F Start / 212 F End
• IAT Pre IC: 102 F Start / 102 F End
• IAT Post IC: 115 F Start / 138 F End

Run 8:

• Knock Value 55%
• Coolant Temp: 200 F Start / 228 F End
• IAT Pre IC: 107 F Start / 108 F End
• IAT Post IC: 126 F Start / 156 F End

Charge air temp, yes, this is very common with stock or inefficient intercoolers. If cooling efficiency is lacking, the core will begin to heatsoak during repeated abuse like back-to-back pulls. Off the top of my head I don't know PID codes for the torque app. We used our Hondata FlashPro to datalog.

 

[Hellraisingvtec]

Looks great. Any idea on pricing?

 

[Shankmeyster]

I don't know why anyone would be whining about HP gain here. This is more about reducing intake temps than anything else right?

 

[PRL Motorsports]

Looks great. Any idea on pricing?

Not quite yet!

I don't know why anyone would be whining about HP gain here. This is more about reducing intake temps than anything else right?

Our thoughts exactly!

 

[WhiteHatchEX17]

You rarely gain in hp with aftermarket intercooler . It keeps the temps down that's the main purpose .

 

[JDM_DOHC_SiR]

Hope this gets released soon and there is a group buy as well

 

[PRL Motorsports]

We have a big announcement to make for the 10th Gen Civic 1.5T community... Pre-orders for our FMIC kit (compatible with both Si and Non-Si models) are finally available!

Kits will retail at $799.99, but we will be selling these at 20% intro pricing for only $639.99 until pre-orders begin shipping. Though we aniticipate orders to begin shipping a bit sooner, we set an ETA at 90 days from today to compensate for any bumps in the road with production along the way.

http://prlmotorsports.com/2016hondacivic15tfmickit.aspx#.WZyAlT6GOUk

Kit Includes:

• Front Mount Intercooler Assembly
• (4) 4-Ply Silicone Coupers
• (8) 304 Stainless Steel Worm Clamps
• (1) Hot Side Intercooler Pipe (Textured Black)
• (1) Cold Side Intercooler Pipe w/ Mounting Bracket and Machined Billet Aluminum Flange (Textured Black)
• (1) -4AN O-Ring to 1/4" Hose Barb (Black)

 

[JDM_DOHC_SiR]

Awesome!!!!
placed into my basket on your site... Just waiting on the Cobra Race CAI to get finished up as well so I can order at the same time Thanks @PRL Motorsports

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