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From my understanding in both cases you'd likely be smashed into the front of the car (clips your legs, your head smacks down into the hood). The sheet metal that most car hoods are made from is relatively soft and deformable and smacking a person's head into it could be survivable. The problem is that just millimeters beneath that soft sheet metal is a solid engine block, and that's what was cracking people's heads open. So automakers began designing clearance between the underside of the hood and the top of the engine, leading to "higher hoods and taller noses,"
Interesting - I had thought it was directly about making the front end higher to protect leg impact.. But what you say makes sense.
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I finally realized what I don't like about the new hatchback platform. It's the angle of the a pillar.
 

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I finally realized what I don't like about the new hatchback platform. It's the angle of the a pillar.
Better not buy the car then. That angle just ruins the car, what was honda thinking? ?
 


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LOL jesus, why are y'all butthurt about what i said? It's comparison thread between the old and new generation and suddenly I can't have opinions? Appearance is subjective no? I got told a few times that FK8 looks boy racer, it's over the top, it's too much.

Anyway i should have elaborated, my apologies if I sounded douchey. What I was trying to say is that I always found the front end bit off for me on the 11th gen, now with the side by side I realize it's because now the windshield is much more vertical to the front hood. For me it looked odd that's all. Maybe because i'm used to the body style that's been around since the 8th gen. (just front end, like the engine hood is more slanted, and it follows through to the windshield/A pillars angel. This gen the front end is more pronounced and elongated and flat horizontally)

To each their own though. I kinda like the rear end in the 11th gen hatch though. but it doesn't really stand out as much as the 10th gen.

I never once said it's a bad car. but come on, i can't say what I think about the car? nice people we have on this forum.
 

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LOL jesus, why are y'all butthurt about what i said? It's comparison thread between the old and new generation and suddenly I can't have opinions? Appearance is subjective no? I got told a few times that FK8 looks boy racer, it's over the top, it's too much.

Anyway i should have elaborated, my apologies if I sounded douchey. What I was trying to say is that I always found the front end bit off for me on the 11th gen, now with the side by side I realize it's because now the windshield is much more vertical to the front hood. For me it looked odd that's all. Maybe because i'm used to the body style that's been around since the 8th gen. (just front end, like the engine hood is more slanted, and it follows through to the windshield/A pillars angel. This gen the front end is more pronounced and elongated and flat horizontally)

To each their own though. I kinda like the rear end in the 11th gen hatch though. but it doesn't really stand out as much as the 10th gen.

I never once said it's a bad car. but come on, i can't say what I think about the car? nice people we have on this forum.
Touche, we can't comment on your comment? Why can't we provide our feedback on your feedback? Lmao....

If I were to call your comment batshit fucking stupid, am I not allowed to? to your point made, "To each their own...." ....right...?
 

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For comparison of the pillar angle. Also, I tried to match the wheelbases up, but I guess that changed generation over generation as well? The sizing seems just a bit off...

11th Gen Honda Civic FL5 and FK8 Civic Type R Comparison Side-by-Side Look 1661276202950
 

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Touche, we can't comment on your comment? Why can't we provide our feedback on your feedback? Lmao....

If I were to call your comment batshit fucking stupid, am I not allowed to? to your point made, "To each their own...." ....right...?
Yes. And your feedback was as constructive as highschool small circles telling people to move on. Sarcastic and dismissive. and throwing my own words right back at my face is some argument there bud. Something I said about not liking the new design apparently struck a nerve for you that you felt the need to express that "yeah...nobody cares about your opinion, get out" type of vibe. Do you want to have a discussion or just like to stir things up? what lead you to feel I was implying you calling my comment "batshit fucking stupid"?

whatever floats your boat man.
 


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FL5 and FK8 are on basically the same chassis just tweaked for more NVH and stiffer. All the suspension points are identical and doesn't need a whole new assembly line to build.
 

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For comparison of the pillar angle. Also, I tried to match the wheelbases up, but I guess that changed generation over generation as well? The sizing seems just a bit off...

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wow hey thanks for the quick comparison here! Here the A pillar at looks like almost the same angle between the 2 gens! i'm guessing it's where the base of the windshield sits and the hood is flatter from the nose. Maybe it's the bumper looking shorter?
 

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wow hey thanks for the quick comparison here! Here the A pillar at looks like almost the same angle between the 2 gens! i'm guessing it's where the base of the windshield sits and the hood is flatter from the nose. Maybe it's the bumper looking shorter?
Yeah, the flatter front and the lower rear really contribute to a different "stanced" feel between the two
 

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Yes. And your feedback was as constructive as highschool small circles telling people to move on. Sarcastic and dismissive. and throwing my own words right back at my face is some argument there bud. Something I said about not liking the new design apparently struck a nerve for you that you felt the need to express that "yeah...nobody cares about your opinion, get out" type of vibe. Do you want to have a discussion or just like to stir things up? what lead you to feel I was implying you calling my comment "batshit fucking stupid"?

whatever floats your boat man.
Oh so you understand! my response is just highlighting the fact that just because someone is entitled to an opinion doesn't mean others have to respect or agree with it.

If you provide your opinion or take on something and when others respond, you cant have it both ways. Calling others "butt hurt" based on their response because we didn't agree nor care about your take circles back to your own insecurities about your opinion.

You can't have "respect my take on something" and then go out and criticize someone else's responses. That is called being hypocritical ROFL.

You struck no nerve with me btw. I was just making a point lol. You clearly want your opinion on the subject at hand to be taken seriously, while also calling out others for theirs, lol.
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