2024 Acura Integra Type S Observations

[menikmati]

What's wrong with the ITS seats?

They're not CTR seats.

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[Integra23]

Have you sat in the ITS seats? They're simply inadequate for a sports sedan of this caliber. The seats in my RSX Type S nearly twenty years ago were better. My expectation is a well bolstered seat that keeps the driver in place during spirited driving whether you're in the canyons or on a track (i.e., HPDE, AutoX, etc.). The ITS seats miss the mark.

I have an Aspec and I don't slide around in the seat. The only thing that slides is the front end with the garbage stock tires.

 

[menikmati]

I have an Aspec and I don't slide around in the seat.

Under what type of driving conditions?

 

[Integra23]

Under what type of driving conditions?

Back road driving. No intentions to ever track a car.

 

[Clark_Kent]

I have an Aspec and I don't slide around in the seat. The only thing that slides is the front end with the garbage stock tires.

The decision tree on whether or not a seat in a performance car is appropriate is more complex than, "Do you slide around in the seat?" Y = Bad seat, N = Good seat. The ITS seats look ok and are comfortable enough but it's a miss. It's a miss just like the exhaust on the CTR is a miss.

 

[Integra23]

The decision tree on whether or not a seat in a performance car is appropriate is more complex than, "Do you slide around in the seat?" Y = Bad seat, N = Good seat. The ITS seats look ok and are comfortable enough but it's a miss. It's a miss just like the exhaust on the CTR is a miss.

True. It's subjective I think the knock is not having ventilated seats. I was looking at a sport touring last year but it didnt have lumbar.. so for me heated and lumbar are a necessity. I also will daily the vehicle and average 15k to 20k miles a year.

 

[mbaapk]

I keep saying it, the ITS is trying to be something it just can’t be and at too high of a price. Honestly if they made it like a restyled type r w same seats except leather and the burbled exhaust it would be a winner because it would maintain its track prowess and specialness while still being different than the R.

 

[Tickle]

I haven't seen a Type S in person. I haven't driven it...

Obviously it's too expensive. Every single thing is. Hell even a special edition JCW Mini is 46k+. I think sales will indicate the price is just fine.

It was never trying to be the best bang for the buck. It was to provide a top notch driving experience that most can drive every day of the year. If the reviews are correct. Well then they succeeded and honestly it sounds more to me like congratulations are in order.

It would be absolutely pointless to make this a Civic Type R. Just like it would be pointless for the MDX, RDX to be any closer to a Honda. Japanese luxury names need all the separation they can get... But there is a catch... it obviously it has to make business sense. They started this with an excellent platform and powertrain and made something their own and rounding off the edges and allowing it to be more approachable.

Electrification
Automatic transmissions

Isn't it nice a company such as Honda/Acura still care?

 

[mbaapk]

I haven't seen a Type S in person. I haven't driven it...

Obviously it's too expensive. Every single thing is. Hell even a special edition JCW Mini is 46k+. I think sales will indicate the price is just fine.

It was never trying to be the best bang for the buck. It was to provide a top notch driving experience that most can drive every day of the year. If the reviews are correct. Well then they succeeded and honestly it sounds more to me like congratulations are in order.

It would be absolutely pointless to make this a Civic Type R. Just like it would be pointless for the MDX, RDX to be any closer to a Honda. Japanese luxury names need all the separation they can get... But there is a catch... it obviously it has to make business sense. They started this with an excellent platform and powertrain and made something their own and rounding off the edges and allowing it to be more approachable.

Electrification
Automatic transmissions

Isn't it nice a company such as Honda/Acura still care?

Completely disagree on most points. They should have made it to mirror the essence of the original teg, which it clearly doesn’t and is a straight failure. Oh and they are getting plenty of separation….in their body panels ?, check out the panel fitment pics on FB!

 

[Tickle]

Completely disagree on most points. They should have made it to mirror the essence of the original teg, which it clearly doesn’t and is a straight failure. Oh and they are getting plenty of separation….in their body panels ?, check out the panel fitment pics on FB!

I know you disagree.

Mirror the essence of the original? Those days are long gone. I thought SG's video did a good job explaining as much. Another thing long gone seems to be quality. I see it in all makes...

 

[menikmati]

Completely disagree on most points. They should have made it to mirror the essence of the original teg, which it clearly doesn’t and is a straight failure. Oh and they are getting plenty of separation….in their body panels ?, check out the panel fitment pics on FB!

I vaguely recall the older Integra, could you elaborate on what you think Acura should have done?

 

[CTR]

The original Integra was not a halo car. Most were LS models with cloth interior and many were extremely ugly sedans. The Integra Type R was the only one remotely special and many customers didn’t understand it at the time.

I’m glad the Type S exists but happy I was able to get an FL5. If anything the mixing and matching of parts between them will help all of us make our cars unique to what we want.

 

[Estoril4]

Saw and drove the ITS this morning so thought I'd throw my 2 cents in. I held off all day to process my thoughts and not let emotions affect me too much. For reference I have not yet driven or sat in the new FL5 but did own an fk8 and have driven many different types of cars. I have also seen the FL5 in person fwiw. I'm interested in both ITS and FL5 so fairly unbiased, I have allegiances to no brand but if you make an interesting car i will buy it. I will be driving the FL5 in a couple weeks.

The cars design is great. It grabs attention in a good way, rear diffuser is not as tacky as i had envisioned. I wish they had gone with a 2 exhaust outlet design but I can live with the 3 equal sizes i suppose, I do prefer that aspect over the type R. The carbon spoiler accessory is a must have to offset the sloping roof line for me aesthetically. Im still not sure about the copper wheels on white if im honest, I didnt like them as much as in photos. I likely would spring for something aftermarket forged instead. My biggest gripe is that the tacked on rear fender flares looked awful. It looked as though a gorilla had glued them on and, to make matters worse, the tacked on flares were more yellow than the pearl white paint they were mated to. As someone who wasnt a fan of the fenders on the fk8, i felt these were somehow worse than that. Note that there's a chance this is a one off on this particular vehicle but it was enough to make me no longer want one in white, which was my first choice prior, just in the off chance it repeated on my vehicle.

Rear bumper height for hatch loading was more intrusive than I had imagined. Lots of space inside but hopefully not lifting anything too heavy in there, would need to watch out for the paint around the hatch. The red interior was not as terrible as I thought it would be from photos. Pics make it look more candy apple but I'd say it's a touch brighter than Lexus' red interior so darker than I imagined. I still hate the red leather piece that wraps around the passenger with a passion, it doesn't look cohesive to me. Id be going boring black interior personally but get it for those who want color. Front seat materials look solid all around and touch points are nice. Back seat is sparse with limited head room, hope you dont have a lot of tall friends going for a ride with you. The seats to me were just regular car seats, nothing really to write home about and unsure how well they would hold on my slimmer frame on a track or the tail. Great for 99% of driving if we're being honest. Alcantara steering wheel felt good (when brand new) and shifter feel was solid with accessory knob, very short throws. First time I've ever wondered if almost too short?? (Wtf is wrong with me?)

On the road the car made solid usable power lower in the rpm range, suspension felt fine to me in all settings so I'm beginning to wonder if I'd even mind the harsher sport setting in an R? The rev match system was annoying to me but I'm an old school person, the heads up display was fantastic to have though. Now, on to both the best and worst driving aspects in my opinion.. The exhaust sounded about where I want it, I was so worried they'd go over the top with crackles but I think they nailed the sweet spot and about as good as a 4 cyl can sound. On the other hand the clutch was so light I couldn't jive with it and the bite point felt somewhere underneath my knee cap. To me they overdid it, there was no feedback through the clutch pedal. Im assuming for "daily driving" purposes. Good for someone in LA traffic, not so much in my area. Like I mentioned power felt good and handling hard to truly test in the time I spent in it so I'll strike that from the review other than to say it felt good and sharp enough for daily driving.

Conclusion nobody asked for: Its a good looking, comfortable, excellent performing, daily driver. I'm also not sure that I like it more than my current car. There's something missing and it's not easily conveyed in text. There's an aura missing, a fizz, a personality, a special feeling I got every time I got in the fk8. I'm not sure what exactly provides me that feeling or even if the FL5 would give it to me. The ITS just felt like a normal car, mainly because it was designed to be just that. Therein lies my second problem with it, I would have guessed based on interior and exterior that it would be a low 40ks car, but I suppose times have changed in the auto industry. Comparing it to my fk8 that cost me 32k 5 years ago it just doesn't measure up and I don't mean in performance metrics alone. I would encourage everyone to seek a demo out and take it for a spin. There's a lot of financial justification happening around the S and the R right now, it's hard to tell who's reviews you can trust or not. People bias their reviews based on where their money is going, in the end I would take a test drive and disregard all reviews you've read, price tags, etc. It will be interesting for me to drive the R in the coming weeks. Thanks for reading my novel

 

[Clark_Kent]

Saw and drove the ITS this morning so thought I'd throw my 2 cents in. I held off all day to process my thoughts and not let emotions affect me too much. For reference I have not yet driven or sat in the new FL5 but did own an fk8 and have driven many different types of cars. I have also seen the FL5 in person fwiw. I'm interested in both ITS and FL5 so fairly unbiased, I have allegiances to no brand but if you make an interesting car i will buy it. I will be driving the FL5 in a couple weeks.

The cars design is great. It grabs attention in a good way, rear diffuser is not as tacky as i had envisioned. I wish they had gone with a 2 exhaust outlet design but I can live with the 3 equal sizes i suppose, I do prefer that aspect over the type R. The carbon spoiler accessory is a must have to offset the sloping roof line for me aesthetically. Im still not sure about the copper wheels on white if im honest, I didnt like them as much as in photos. I likely would spring for something aftermarket forged instead. My biggest gripe is that the tacked on rear fender flares looked awful. It looked as though a gorilla had glued them on and, to make matters worse, the tacked on flares were more yellow than the pearl white paint they were mated to. As someone who wasnt a fan of the fenders on the fk8, i felt these were somehow worse than that. Note that there's a chance this is a one off on this particular vehicle but it was enough to make me no longer want one in white, which was my first choice prior, just in the off chance it repeated on my vehicle.

Rear bumper height for hatch loading was more intrusive than I had imagined. Lots of space inside but hopefully not lifting anything too heavy in there, would need to watch out for the paint around the hatch. The red interior was not as terrible as I thought it would be from photos. Pics make it look more candy apple but I'd say it's a touch brighter than Lexus' red interior so darker than I imagined. I still hate the red leather piece that wraps around the passenger with a passion, it doesn't look cohesive to me. Id be going boring black interior personally but get it for those who want color. Front seat materials look solid all around and touch points are nice. Back seat is sparse with limited head room, hope you dont have a lot of tall friends going for a ride with you. The seats to me were just regular car seats, nothing really to write home about and unsure how well they would hold on my slimmer frame on a track or the tail. Great for 99% of driving if we're being honest. Alcantara steering wheel felt good (when brand new) and shifter feel was solid with accessory knob, very short throws. First time I've ever wondered if almost too short?? (Wtf is wrong with me?)

On the road the car made solid usable power lower in the rpm range, suspension felt fine to me in all settings so I'm beginning to wonder if I'd even mind the harsher sport setting in an R? The rev match system was annoying to me but I'm an old school person, the heads up display was fantastic to have though. Now, on to both the best and worst driving aspects in my opinion.. The exhaust sounded about where I want it, I was so worried they'd go over the top with crackles but I think they nailed the sweet spot and about as good as a 4 cyl can sound. On the other hand the clutch was so light I couldn't jive with it and the bite point felt somewhere underneath my knee cap. To me they overdid it, there was no feedback through the clutch pedal. Im assuming for "daily driving" purposes. Good for someone in LA traffic, not so much in my area. Like I mentioned power felt good and handling hard to truly test in the time I spent in it so I'll strike that from the review other than to say it felt good and sharp enough for daily driving.

Conclusion nobody asked for: Its a good looking, comfortable, excellent performing, daily driver. I'm also not sure that I like it more than my current car. There's something missing and it's not easily conveyed in text. There's an aura missing, a fizz, a personality, a special feeling I got every time I got in the fk8. I'm not sure what exactly provides me that feeling or even if the FL5 would give it to me. The ITS just felt like a normal car, mainly because it was designed to be just that. Therein lies my second problem with it, I would have guessed based on interior and exterior that it would be a low 40ks car, but I suppose times have changed in the auto industry. Comparing it to my fk8 that cost me 32k 5 years ago it just doesn't measure up and I don't mean in performance metrics alone. I would encourage everyone to seek a demo out and take it for a spin. There's a lot of financial justification happening around the S and the R right now, it's hard to tell who's reviews you can trust or not. People bias their reviews based on where their money is going, in the end I would take a test drive and disregard all reviews you've read, price tags, etc. It will be interesting for me to drive the R in the coming weeks. Thanks for reading my novel

Thanks for sharing. A lot of good points you hit. Would be interested in your follow up to this review once you drive the FL5.

The bolded section is a fascinating observation and one I share. There's a lot more to be said but, I'll leave well enough alone.

 

[Noize]

The original Integra was not a halo car… The Integra Type R was the only one remotely special and many customers didn’t understand it at the time.

We often see things similarly, but we’re way out of sorts right now, cuz.

I’m starting to wonder if the YouTube millennial brigade is too young to remember and completely missed the bus on this back in the day?

There’s an unsung hero here: THE money maker that held down the affordable import fanboy car all by itself from 1994-2001. It was the third gen Integra GSR.

There is an important distinction to be made: What passed for performance 25-30 years ago is a joke today. Heck, nearly this entire segment was open differential. But the GSR was way better than any Civic (or I daresay any Prelude as well) of its time. The 170HP B18C1 was a dream canvas for modifications, the direct rod shifter into the transmission was rifle bolt precise, and man they were lightweight, great cars.

To say the ITR was the only one that was remotely special is a disservice to history. The GSR was special. The ITR was an absolute freaking dream. A true Type R in every sense, it got a front helical limited slip, and the engine was orgasmic for its time. Our boosted K20C1 is a very good engine for performance, but it is soulless and utterly devoid of character compared to a B18C5. The aural assault and joy of spinning a DC2 R past 8500rpm in second or third gear cements that fact, and is something every automotive enthusiast with 10w30 in their veins should experience.

To bring this thread somewhat on topic, CTR vs. ITS is like comparing your girlfriend to her hot sister. The differences are minor and only in the seasoning. Pick whichever one is right for you, but they do 97% of the same things- They’re family after all.

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