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@007 Yes, supply and demand makes sense. I agree the markups should continue to taper down, assuming there’s no production problems.

I also think @AspecR is right that the FL5 is likely to always have a markup of some sort (in most scenarios). The simple reason being : There are always buyers who want these particular cars brand new. We all know the reason for that. Those who don’t mind buying used will get the most bang for their buck as used car prices shouldn’t continue their currently inflated prices. It’s insane to me that used FK8’s with like 10k miles on their odometer are selling for higher prices than new. This just shouldn’t happen, not with “normal” production vehicles under “normal” circumstances…yet, here we are.

I guess what I’m getting at, which many have been saying, is : If the car is available and the terms are agreeable to you, then buy it and enjoy. Yeah, you could wait and possibly get a better deal…but then again, maybe not. As ADMs taper down, more buyers will show up, especially if we assume that the economy will improve over the next few years.
Until there is market saturation, there will be markups on this car. There are still people putting up videos about it on youtube, and there is still a lot of talk by those who can't afford the high markups. Note how there were several people on here who got a car early because someone couldn't work out the financing.

THE REALITY is that NOW is the time to buy, as AspecR said.

The dealers have more cars than ever, the 2024s will be making these less desirable, and the end-of-year sales goals that both dealer and manufacturer have will be incentive to sell and not sit. Dealers get real money bonuses for hitting (or exceeding) goals.

Be assured that any dealer that isn't willing to discount now to hit those goals, won't be bringing down their prices anytime soon. if you are serious about getting one of these cars in the near future, then these last 2 months are the time.

For those who are only willing to pay MSRP... if you don't find such a thing, then, give it a go on the last day of the year.

Good luck!
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Still being marked up at most places, these cars will always be marked up unless it’s a dealership that exclusively does MSRP or they have 2 many of them collecting dust for extended periods
What is the current interest in this car by buyers right now? Have you noticed any change in awareness or interest? If they are interested, is it mostly price, or other issues?
 

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What is the current interest in this car by buyers right now? Have you noticed any change in awareness or interest? If they are interested, is it mostly price, or other issues?
Interest rates with A-tier credit are between 6-8% even with credit unions and they aren't going down any time soon. Interest/demand is still high. In Florida these cars will always have a markup, most don't realize that it's actually better for clients when Honda drops a large batch at once, instead of a steady trickle. Negotiations will be easier if 4 sit unsold as opposed to 1.

Main issue people are still having is pricing, second is credit worthiness, if they aren't buying cash but people still want them though.
My dealership got 8 of them yesterday, all but one of them left the dealership with a new owner. The last one didn't leave yet because it's owner lives in Vegas lol.
 

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Morning Gents, if you’re in Florida, now’s a good time to go Type R shopping. A few dealerships have at least 2 or 3 on the ground l. Brahman has the only RR available for sale at the moment.

It’s not in my best interest to give clients options outside of my dealership but I wanna see you guys get the cars you’ve wanted.
which dealerships and what colors are available. I’ve been trying to find a reasonable OTD… fort pierce wants $70k for their type r, Margate wanted over $60k for they’re used grey one. The best I’ve seen/heard is a friend of a friend paid $55k OTD somewhere in Georgia for boost blue
 

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which dealerships and what colors are available. I’ve been trying to find a reasonable OTD… fort pierce wants $70k for their type r, Margate wanted over $60k for they’re used grey one. The best I’ve seen/heard is a friend of a friend paid $55k OTD somewhere in Georgia for boost blue

Rick Case Honda, you’re a little late though. All the ones we had sold the same day, some of them were presold though. We’ve sold a few for $54k-$55k OTD

I’ll keep you in mind when we get more.
 


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Rick Case Honda, you’re a little late though. All the ones we had sold the same day, some of them were presold though. We’ve sold a few for $54k-$55k OTD

I’ll keep you in mind when we get more.
Damn, I would appreciate that, if you can let me know. I’m a local West Palm Beach born and raised so I’d rather make the hour trip down to Davie then 10-15 hours up north if I can.

Just curious, what’s the lowest someone has paid here OTD for an FL5
 

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Damn, I would appreciate that, if you can let me know. I’m a local West Palm Beach born and raised so I’d rather make the hour trip down to Davie then 10-15 hours up north if I can.

Just curious, what’s the lowest someone has paid here OTD for an FL5
An employee’s family member got one for $1995 over sticker, that works out to just over $52k OTD.
 

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I’m next for the DE5 and FL5 at MSRP. I can’t decide between them. In Canada the price difference between the 2 are minimal.
 


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You should easily be able to get that now and in the near future. Tons going for 5k and below ADMs
If you're not in the same region take this with a grain of salt.

For reference, we've only received about 30 of these cars total in WA state for 2023 MY based on what I've seen pop up in the trackers. They are very rare up here and the markup is still high.

Many of the MSRP-5K Markup deals are in regions that are getting 10-20 cars at the same time. My guess is that we'll see a $2000 MSRP increase for 2024 models at least.
 

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If you're not in the same region take this with a grain of salt.

For reference, we've only received about 30 of these cars total in WA state for 2023 MY based on what I've seen pop up in the trackers. They are very rare up here and the markup is still high.

Many of the MSRP-5K Markup deals are in regions that are getting 10-20 cars at the same time. My guess is that we'll see a $2000 MSRP increase for 2024 models at least.
I am in Florida so I’m hoping somewhere here or within a surrounding couple of states like Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, etc… will have one.

Do most of you guys just cold call dealerships you see on autotrader?
 
 







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