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[atlcivic]

I purchased mine at MSRP and was $53k after taxes and fees. Car was optioned with alcantara steering wheel, carbon wing, leather shifter, rubber mats, and illuminated door sills. I live in Atlanta where markups are high; all I did was call pretty much every dealer as far West as Oklahoma and as far North as Ohio. Landed on one in Alabama 3 days after I started calling dozens of dealers. Only drawback is I have dealers calling me every week for the rest of my life ?.

Damn, nice job! I’m in Atlanta also and haven’t had much luck at all. If you come across a reasonable ADM dealer calling you feel free to send them my way ?

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[CCHHAAVVAA]

Does anybody know if the pacific northwest is getting more allocation or at least Washington State cuz from what I've seen on the inventory finders everybody else has allocation or still getting some but not up here

 

[1971Camaro]

Does anybody know if the pacific northwest is getting more allocation or at least Washington State cuz from what I've seen on the inventory finders everybody else has allocation or still getting some but not up here

I see that there have been some listed on the notifications that there are some coming to the state, but they're not on the map, so i don't see how to know if/what dealerships will get them. As usual, the best advice is to find and contact the not-as-popular dealers and get on a list -- even if they don't yet have an allocation, and visit the dealer a few times so they get to know you.

 

[TypeRD]

Hmmmm….
https://www.businessinsider.com/aut...upply-chain-constraints-car-buyers-2023-5?amp

 

[AspecR]

Anyone know if the last year for the FL5 is 2025?

Allegedly 2026 is the final year for the FL5

 

[TDC50]

Hmmmm….
https://www.businessinsider.com/aut...upply-chain-constraints-car-buyers-2023-5?amp

Its games like this that will create opportunities for newer to the US carmakers, hungry for market share to gain a foot hold and put existing manufacturers on their heels. Remember when the big three got fat and lazy with automotive design and engineering in the ‘60s and ‘70’s and then the Japanese decimated them.
ThEse market conditions may be just what the Chinese and Vietnamese carmakers need to get a hold in the US market.

 

[type-RUsrs?]

This dealership has a Used FL5 with 1015 miles for $59,995:
https://www.viphonda.com/inventory/...r-fwd-type-r-4dr-hatchback-jhmfl5g42px000458/
https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/JHMFL5G42PX000458
Carfax values the car at $58,350

They have a second CW In-transit:
https://www.viphonda.com/inventory/...r-fwd-type-r-4dr-hatchback-jhmfl5g4xpx001678/
ADM is $19K

Safe to say, this dealership is happy to wait it out.

 

[TypeRD]

Yep @TDC50 It’s already starting to happen (again). I read somewhere about Chinese cars starting sales in the U.S. I think they may be electric cars, which makes sense. But yeah, this is how/why Hyundai has become such a competitive brand in the US. 15-20 years ago, they were not even close to where they are today. Before Hyundai making it big, Nissan, Toyota, and Honda were the newcomers. Where there are gaps in the market left by the big dogs, there’s a window of opportunity for the small dogs.

 

[1971Camaro]

Its games like this that will create opportunities for newer to the US carmakers, hungry for market share to gain a foot hold and put existing manufacturers on their heels. Remember when the big three got fat and lazy with automotive design and engineering in the ‘60s and ‘70’s and then the Japanese decimated them.
ThEse market conditions may be just what the Chinese and Vietnamese carmakers need to get a hold in the US market.

truth! the same high interest and the same assumptions that the consumer will just keep buying no matter what the price...

average consumer cannot afford the car or the interest rates... and even if they might, the lenders are not as likely to to give them a loan.

 

[CTR]

There have been about 1600 available/sold FL5 in the last 7-8 months in the US according to Steven's CTR Finder application. This is a small number and about half the volume of FK8 in this time according to @AspecR.

Like many of us have said this will not be a car that will be readily available anytime soon. The DE5 will alleviate some of the demand but I don't see $5K over MSRP becoming the norm in the near future. If you really want this car just bite the bullet and pay an ADM you are comfortable with. Continuing to call dealers daily or waiting for the elusive MSRP deal is probably more work than it is worth.

Another thing to keep in mind:
There is a good chance that when they transition to the 2024 model year this fall the price will go up another $1-$2K.

For reference I paid between $5K-$10K ADM including some accessories. No trade to muddy up the deal. Looking back I'm pretty happy with the deal I made and there hasn't been an FL5 in my state in about 2-3 months... I love the car and it has exceeded my expectations in every way. As someone who daily drove an AP1 S2000 for 8 years this scratches the itch while still being a practical car. I haven't found another car in the last decade that can do the same without looking ridiculous (FK8).

 

[CivicR38]

My delivery has been pushed back two consecutive weeks, anticipation is killing me!

 

[ELIAS64]

My delivery has been pushed back two consecutive weeks, anticipation is killing me!

Start building your arsenal of mods. It'll keep you busy. That's what I'm doing.

 

[CivicR38]

Start building your arsenal of mods. It'll keep you busy. That's what I'm doing.

Stock until the market has more options!

 

[Tickle]

Hmmmm….
https://www.businessinsider.com/aut...upply-chain-constraints-car-buyers-2023-5?amp

Journalism leaves much to be desired these days.... Of course whatever you read has some sort of parent company that is related to another. That's a topic for another day...

My point is that while automakers that can produce vehicles at a rate close to what they once had should be cautious to avoid oversaturation this bringing back massive incentives. CEO of Ford has mentioned as much more than once.

The beauty of the auto industry, unlike so many other other sectors... Is that there is so much competition. Innovation and options.

Honda isn't one of the companies holding back on production. Short of the Honda Ridgeline and at times the Passport (both up for redesigns next year). Honda could stand to produce more.

If dealers can have ADM. Then manufactures can afford to produce more if possible. They are businesses and they are looking for profit and growth.

 

[TypeRD]

@Tickle Yeah it’s only a data point.

We know that most of our “news” these days lacks detail and nuance, so it requires people (who really want a comprehensive understanding) to deep dive. Not many will do that. In fact, most news sources are counting on this. It’s all done to maintain their partisan, not-fully-informed, readership. But anyway…

Another way to look at it is this : Because the economy is shaky (with mortgage foreclosures and auto loan defaults), lenders are more apprehensive to give out auto loans. As such, the auto industry has shifted production to focus on fewer (perhaps higher-end / higher margin) offerings to cater to those who can afford new vehicles (without the need for a loan or only require a partial loan).

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