TSP Stage 1 Tune for the 2017+ Civic Si (Cobra Race Support Included!)

[davemarco]

Just pulled the trigger. Will be sure to post my honest feedback later in the week!

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[D-RobIMW]

Just pulled the trigger. Will be sure to post my honest feedback later in the week!

Nice! What fuel quality do you have available?

 

[TruePandemonium]

Pulled the trigger on this a day ago, order arrived same night! So far extremely pleased with the tune, lots of pull. Feels great!

Quick question though, I just pulled a log of around 15 minutes worth of driving. When looking at the graphs my AFR is 20+ with 0 throttle input. Other wise it seems to hover between 14.7 - 15.2 during idle, and drops as low as 10.82 during WOT pulls. Lastly, the highest PSI of boost the car reached is 20. Not trying to nit pick, just want to make sure things are normal. Can anyone confirm this is at least within the realm of where it should be. Can't really find any information on this.


Thanks in advance!

 

[charleswrivers]

@D-RobIMW, do you think you'll offer a variant through Two Step that'll either be maps uncoupled by the OTF map swap, or at least where the "hot" map is tune 1 vice 3 and valet map 3 vice 1, so the most aggressive map is the default map on startup? I don't want to have a valet map on startup... and I don't keep my Ktuner plugged in to remember the previous map. It's only ever in the car for reflashes and to do a datalog to see that the car is happy with a particular flash, then it's out.

I can see the usefulness of a mild map if for some reason there's no 93 available and I have to fill with 87 until I manage to put the good stuff back in. I know when Irma came through last year I couldn't get 93 for a week or more.

(...and I hate to admit it, but at 36, I've never ever used valet parking. Ever.)

 

[davemarco]

Nice! What fuel quality do you have available?

93 Octane is the only premium in the Capital Region, so I should have the best possible basis for comparison. I'm currently running PRL's Cobra CAI and FMIC, so minus the DP/FP, I'm pretty close to full basic bolt ons. Looking forward to seeing what this tune can do!

 

[davemarco]

Pulled the trigger on this a day ago, order arrived same night! So far extremely pleased with the tune, lots of pull. Feels great!

Quick question though, I just pulled a log of around 15 minutes worth of driving. When looking at the graphs my AFR is 20+ with 0 throttle input. Other wise it seems to hover between 14.7 - 15.2 during idle, and drops as low as 10.82 during WOT pulls. Lastly, the highest PSI of boost the car reached is 20. Not trying to nit pick, just want to make sure things are normal. Can anyone confirm this is at least within the realm of where it should be. Can't really find any information on this.


Thanks in advance!

That's perfectly normal. AFR will be around 29 whenever you're coasting.

This is a three tune package, with factory boost on setting 1, 19/21 psi on 2, and the 25 psi custom tune on Setting 3. You're likely on one of the first two settings.

 

[TruePandemonium]

That's perfectly normal. AFR will be around 29 whenever you're coasting.

This is a three tune package, with factory boost on setting 1, 19/21 psi on 2, and the 25 psi custom tune on Setting 3. You're likely on one of the first two settings.

Thanks for the prompt reply, that is reassuring.

Car was definitely in Tune 3 + sport mode for the run, not sure why it would not have reached target boost..
You wouldn't happen to know why I threw a Catalyst and Evap code would you? Car was tested as Stock + Tune

Any help is appreciated

 

[davemarco]

Thanks for the prompt reply, that is reassuring.

Car was definitely in Tune 3 + sport mode for the run, not sure why it would not have reached target boost..
You wouldn't happen to know why I threw a Catalyst and Evap code would you? Car was tested as Stock + Tune

Any help is appreciated

Nope, that would be a question for @D-RobIMW . I'd shoot him a log and have him see what's up.

 

[TruePandemonium]

Nope, that would be a question for @D-RobIMW . I'd shoot him a log and have him see what's up.

Thanks! Sent him a PM!

 

[D-RobIMW]

Pulled the trigger on this a day ago, order arrived same night! So far extremely pleased with the tune, lots of pull. Feels great!

Quick question though, I just pulled a log of around 15 minutes worth of driving. When looking at the graphs my AFR is 20+ with 0 throttle input. Other wise it seems to hover between 14.7 - 15.2 during idle, and drops as low as 10.82 during WOT pulls. Lastly, the highest PSI of boost the car reached is 20. Not trying to nit pick, just want to make sure things are normal. Can anyone confirm this is at least within the realm of where it should be. Can't really find any information on this.


Thanks in advance!

The AFR of 20+ during decel is correct. The ECU cuts fuel when you lift off the throttle. You'll find the stock calibration, all the "starter" files, etc exhibit this behavior.

None of the closed loop fueling targets are changed at narrow throttle, so again, what you're seeing there is no different than any other tune you would load.

WOT at 10.8:1 is richer than the target, so I'm assuming you're looking at a portion of the log before the ECU had time to initiate closed loop correction at WOT to hit the intended low-11's:1 AFR target. When the ECU is in open loop at WOT, you will see slightly richer fueling until it switches. This can take some time post-flash.

Your boost pressure tells me you are either on a lower map (map 1 or 2), you haven't selected "Sport" mode on map 3, or you are at a very, very high elevation that the ECU is targeting a lower boost pressure to prevent turbocharger overspeed.

@D-RobIMW, do you think you'll offer a variant through Two Step that'll either be maps uncoupled by the OTF map swap, or at least where the "hot" map is tune 1 vice 3 and valet map 3 vice 1, so the most aggressive map is the default map on startup? I don't want to have a valet map on startup... and I don't keep my Ktuner plugged in to remember the previous map. It's only ever in the car for reflashes and to do a datalog to see that the car is happy with a particular flash, then it's out.

I can see the usefulness of a mild map if for some reason there's no 93 available and I have to fill with 87 until I manage to put the good stuff back in. I know when Irma came through last year I couldn't get 93 for a week or more.

(...and I hate to admit it, but at 36, I've never ever used valet parking. Ever.)

I can accommodate that.

 

[D-RobIMW]

Thanks for the prompt reply, that is reassuring.

Car was definitely in Tune 3 + sport mode for the run, not sure why it would not have reached target boost..
You wouldn't happen to know why I threw a Catalyst and Evap code would you? Car was tested as Stock + Tune

Any help is appreciated

Nothing in the tune file changes anything about the catalyst or evap monitoring. If you are receiving an error code for those, there is a mechanical problem.

 

[CrippleRipple]

@D-RobIMW, do you think you'll offer a variant through Two Step that'll either be maps uncoupled by the OTF map swap, or at least where the "hot" map is tune 1 vice 3 and valet map 3 vice 1, so the most aggressive map is the default map on startup? I don't want to have a valet map on startup... and I don't keep my Ktuner plugged in to remember the previous map. It's only ever in the car for reflashes and to do a datalog to see that the car is happy with a particular flash, then it's out.

I can see the usefulness of a mild map if for some reason there's no 93 available and I have to fill with 87 until I manage to put the good stuff back in. I know when Irma came through last year I couldn't get 93 for a week or more.

(...and I hate to admit it, but at 36, I've never ever used valet parking. Ever.)

@D-RobIMW

I would like the same setup if possible.
Running just like Charles! Have my hottest Map #1, mild #2, factoryish #3.

Let me know!

Thank you!

 

[CrippleRipple]

I'm 99.9% sure Derek mentioned on FB that VSA is only half-way turned off with this tune as if you just pressed the button.
He mentioned that pedal dance is still required to turn it off fully.

I'll take your word for the launching ^_^

You are correct, just got back from a run to the bank and had to give a modded Pontiac Soltice turbo a go.....70F,damp roads, Map #3 and Sport mode on.

Launch control rocketed me off but VSA cut and light were on for just a bit on the 1-2 upshift allowing him to get closer until "Insta Boost" kicked my car down the road! Can't get over how knarly the mid to top end is now!

So definitely VSA is not fully disabled! Guess I'll have to crip walk the pedals still! Lol

 

[thatlilwhiteone]

You are correct, just got back from a run to the bank and had to give a modded Pontiac Soltice turbo a go.....70F,damp roads, Map #3 and Sport mode on.

Launch control rocketed me off but VSA cut and light were on for just a bit on the 1-2 upshift allowing him to get closer until "Insta Boost" kicked my car down the road! Can't get over how knarly the mid to top end is now!

So definitely VSA is not fully disabled! Guess I'll have to crip walk the pedals still! Lol

How do you use the launch control is it different than stock? Do you just put the gas to the floor and dump the clutch as fast as possible?

 

[charleswrivers]

I can accommodate that.

Thanks @D-RobIMW. I'll have my order in today and try and make a note during the order (if possible) to annotate the desired change. My e-mail address is the same as my username on here.

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