Spoon Springs vs Eibach?

[Integra23]

I like the pro-kit raked look. What is the factory spring rates? Not sure the extra $300 for spoon is worth it.

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[BigBird]

I just got confirmation from Eibach on their Spring offerings with a disclaimer that all should be aware of.

Note from Eibach:
“Reminder, springs are FL5 specific, and none of them are on the shelves yet, so if someone is saying they have them, it is either FK8 or a European kit, which is different than what we are doing here in the USA.”

FL5 Sportline:
Front: 6.4K/mm
Rear: 6K/mm

FL5 Prokit are:
Front: 5.1kg/mm
Rear: 4.7kg/mm

wonder what the difference is from the FK8s.

 

[jonnys_honda]

wonder what the difference is from the FK8s.

Lower rates on the FK8.

 

[jdOTFL5]

@jonnys_honda I saw that you installed spoon springs on your car already have you tracked it yet? how does it feel?

 

[jonnys_honda]

@jonnys_honda I saw that you installed spoon springs on your car already have you tracked it yet? how does it feel?

Have not even left my garage yet after the install. No feedback till I hit the track on August 1st.

 

[jdOTFL5]

Have not even left my garage yet after the install. No feedback till I hit the track on August 1st.

my spoon springs will be arriving this week and im contemplating if i even want to install them

 

[jonnys_honda]

my spoon springs will be arriving this week and im contemplating if i even want to install them

I don’t mind testing different suspension options. So I went ahead and installed them. I’ll take proper photos of the drop and report back with on road feedback this week.

 

[tezzasaurusrex]

I've been running the Spoon springs (FL5 Specific Set) for about a month now - been on the track once. They feel great, ride is definitely stiffer, and body movements are better controlled.
However, they are not perfect. Firstly, the fronts are noisy on sharp drop offs (decompressions) such as when it rebounds after hitting a speed bump or sharp undulation in the road, I have been able to reduce the noise by installing an additional spring insulator (made by Tein) to the front springs however it has not eliminated this noise. Additionally, I am running a 7mm spring shim on the rear positioned between the upper spring rubber insulator and the body, to make the vehicle sit flat. Without the shim, it is heavily reversed raked.
I plan to upgrade to coilovers towards the end of the year.

 

[jdOTFL5]

I don’t mind testing different suspension options. So I went ahead and installed them. I’ll take proper photos of the drop and report back with on road feedback this week.

I've been running the Spoon springs (FL5 Specific Set) for about a month now - been on the track once. They feel great, ride is definitely stiffer, and body movements are better controlled.
However, they are not perfect. Firstly, the fronts are noisy on sharp drop offs (decompressions) such as when it rebounds after hitting a speed bump or sharp undulation in the road, I have been able to reduce the noise by installing an additional spring insulator (made by Tein) to the front springs however it has not eliminated this noise. Additionally, I am running a 7mm spring shim on the rear positioned between the upper spring rubber insulator and the body, to make the vehicle sit flat. Without the shim, it is heavily reversed raked.
I plan to upgrade to coilovers towards the end of the year.

How bad is the noise? I mean i feel like that might be something I can live with. I too plan on switching to coils.. but just not now. I want the lowered look but I know that in the long run I will be running coils thats why im even second guessing it. Being in california as well, the heat right now is a bit much so I probably wont be tracking the car anytime soon at least for a few months. and thats $650 that could go to my coils

 

[tezzasaurusrex]

I definitely want to go coilovers for the track in the future.. i've tracked the OEM springs setup and they were way too bouncy.. Im curious if the spoon springs will help a lot

How bad is the noise? I mean i feel like that might be something I can live with. I too plan on switching to coils.. but just not now. I want the lowered look but I know that in the long run I will be running coils thats why im even second guessing it. Being in california as well, the heat right now is a bit much so I probably wont be tracking the car anytime soon at least for a few months.

The inherant bounciness is still there, the stiffer rates of the springs does help though. I would say the bounciness is reduced by around 20%
I still don't touch Sport or +R mode - they are in my opinion far too over damped under high G loading.

The noise isn't too bad. It really only occurs mostly on sharp speed bumps in shopping centre carparks.

I think if I was to go back in time, I would go straight for coilovers, and forget lowering springs altogether. As they have not resolved the bounciness in any meaningful way imo.

These springs basically cost me 20% of a set of Ohlins. Thankfully, I can do all the install and set up myself, I would be quite disppointed if I had to pay for the spring install and then do it all over again for coilovers. We all differ though, and some people might find the spring option perfectly suitable for their intended purpose. It might be worth noting that coilovers may well exhibit a different kind of noise themselves.

 

[jdOTFL5]

The inherant bounciness is still there, the stiffer rates of the springs does help though. I would say the bounciness is reduced by around 20%
I still don't touch Sport or +R mode - they are in my opinion far too over damped under high G loading.

The noise isn't too bad. It really only occurs mostly on sharp speed bumps in shopping centre carparks.

I think if I was to go back in time, I would go straight for coilovers, and forget lowering springs altogether. These springs basically cost me 20% of a set of Ohlins. Thankfully, I can do all the install and set up myself, I would be quite disppointed if I had to pay for the spring install and then do it all over again for coilovers. We all differ though, and some people might find the spring option perfectly suitable for their intended purpose. It might be worth noting that coilovers may well exhibit a different kind of noise themselves.

20%? how much were your springs vs ohlins in AUS? springs in the states are $650 and ohlins are like $2600

 

[tezzasaurusrex]

20%? how much were your springs vs ohlins in AUS? springs in the states are $650 and ohlins are like $2600

Spoon springs cost me AUD900.
Ohlins can be had for around AUD4500 with the error cancellers.
900/4500 = 20%

 

[jdOTFL5]

Spoon springs cost me AUD900.
Ohlins can be had for around AUD4500 with the error cancellers.
900/4500 = 20%

oh hmm so roughly its the same conversion.. i didnt add the EDC delete into the equation

 

[tezzasaurusrex]

oh hmm so roughly its the same conversion.. i didnt add the EDC delete into the equation

Some kits like the Tein Mono Racing or the HKS Hipermax come with the EDC delete, and also come with their own strut tops at a price lower than the Ohlins. So there are better value options out there, but I believe the Ohlins will feel the best for a road car that hits the track once a month. The Ohlins spring rates seem far better suited for road use.

 

[jdOTFL5]

Some kits like the Tein Mono Racing or the HKS Hipermax come with the EDC delete, and also come with their own strut tops at a price lower than the Ohlins. So there are better value options out there, but I believe the Ohlins will feel the best for a road car that hits the track once a month. The Ohlins spring rates seem far better suited for road use.

I was also looking at KW club sports

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