The FL5 Dealer ADM Markup Thread

[fordsucks]

What dealer? I'm in southeast FL and the dealership network around here is nothing but a cesspool.

Bay County

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[AspecR]

Rick Case Honda is getting a Rally Red FL5 for anyone interested in that color.
Price is MSRP + $2k

Hit me up if interested

 

[RODSCIVIC]

So Cal dealers are ruthless

 

[ckim715]

Picked up a Sonic Gray Pearl at Safford Brown in Glen Burnie MD on Friday for MSRP. Only add ones were all weather mats and wheel locks.

 

[zumbooruk]

So Cal $5,000 over for a 2025 CTR which was manufactured after August 2024 (was not subject to the recall)

I still love love my 07 FA5 but it has nearly 200K miles and it needs new tires, for whatever reason my tires never seem to last more than 15K miles

so I have a choice to make: either buy new tires or buy a new car.

I have not test driven the CTR, yet I am sure going to miss shifting at 8,000+ RPM

any reason not to buy a CTR at 5 over?

based on previous model years, will prices come down closer to MY 2026?

 

[Holtz]

So Cal $5,000 over for a 2025 CTR which was manufactured after August 2024 (was not subject to the recall)

I still love love my 07 FA5 but it has nearly 200K miles and it needs new tires, for whatever reason my tires never seem to last more than 15K miles

so I have a choice to make: either buy new tires or buy a new car.

I have not test driven the CTR, yet I am sure going to miss shifting at 8,000+ RPM

any reason not to buy a CTR at 5 over?

based on previous model years, will prices come down closer to MY 2026?

At 5 over on a new model year you’re doing pretty good. Average ADM i expect to be 10K. They 100% wont touch going to 2-3k. Simply doesn’t make sense for them to lose their dealers showpiece that early. They need it to sell the other models for people who cannot afford the type r but aspire to own it one day. I doubt any smart dealers in any area that is popular, budge for anything less than 5k. Try and nudge a little more on your trade and make them close to break even on that side.

 

[zumbooruk]

At 5 over on a new model year you’re doing pretty good. Average ADM i expect to be 10K. They 100% wont touch going to 2-3k. Simply doesn’t make sense for them to lose their dealers showpiece that early. They need it to sell the other models for people who cannot afford the type r but aspire to own it one day. I doubt any smart dealers in any area that is popular, budge for anything less than 5k. Try and nudge a little more on your trade and make them close to break even on that side.

the reason for "only" $5K is because my daughter is buying a Civic Hybrid Hatch from the same dealer this weekend.

decision is then more difficult, get a new set of tires and wait about a year for prices to drop below 5K over, which it might not, or pull the trigger now.

patience is a virtue

but it ain't one of mine

I might just have to flip a coin as many times as necessary to reach the correct decision

 

[matts67]

I don't understand why you wouldn't just buy one from another state for MSRP, and pay $1000-1500 to have it shipped. I'd rather do that and put money into the hands of a shipping company than throw an extra $5000-10000 to a greedy dealer.

 

[zumbooruk]

I don't understand why you wouldn't just buy one from another state for MSRP, and pay $1000-1500 to have it shipped. I'd rather do that and put money into the hands of a shipping company than throw an extra $5000-10000 to a greedy dealer.

I never really considered it...

I guess that I assumed that I have to be at the dealership to sign papers?

I do not buy cars very often, about every 17-20 years

the CTR would be my third new car and probably the last, as I am 60 years old...

I'll research.

thanks!

 

[zumbooruk]

How do I find inventory outside of So Cal?

the Honda inventory search wants me to enter a zip code first and then only show nearby dealers.

 

[Clark_Kent]

How do I find inventory outside of So Cal?

the Honda inventory search wants me to enter a zip code first and then only show nearby dealers.

https://www.motoringobsession.com/stock/civic-type-r

 

[Holtz]

I never really considered it...

I guess that I assumed that I have to be at the dealership to sign papers?

I do not buy cars very often, about every 17-20 years

the CTR would be my third new car and probably the last, as I am 60 years old...

I'll research.


thanks!

If it’s MSRP its gone in an instant with 10 deposits already probably at a dealership with a list of people in case the first person backs out. No need for them to deal with out of state hassle when someone up the road wants the 2025

 

[matts67]

The motoringobsession site doesn't seem to have updated for the last month or so - not sure what's going on with it.

I recommend setting up saved searches on both CarGurus.com and Autotrader.com for new Civic Type R inventory. Do a nationwide search and sort by newest inventory.

States and dealers that will sell for MSRP based on my research: Ohio (Lindsay Honda, Matt Castrucci Honda), Missouri (Dave Mungenast Honda), Louisana (Richards Honda, Team Honda) Alabama (Carlock Honda), Florida (Honda of Bay County, Coconut Point Honda, Rick Case Honda, Hendrick Honda of Pompano), North Carolina (Hendrick Honda of Concord).

I've shopped around and busted balls quite a bit, so I have written quotes from a lot of dealers. I can provide written quotes if anyone needs them for bargaining chips. I currently have a deposit on an incoming white 2025 FL5 with Rick Case, as far as I know they have Boost Blue and Rallye Red incoming and I can provide the name of my salesperson who is giving me an MSRP deal. No add ons, just the $899 dealer fee.

I've been tempted to compile a database of dealerships that are charging market adjustments so they can be publicly shamed and boycotted, but I guess I'm not bored enough yet.

 

[matts67]

If it’s MSRP its gone in an instant with 10 deposits already probably at a dealership with a list of people in case the first person backs out. No need for them to deal with out of state hassle when someone up the road wants the 2025

This isn't true. There are plenty of MSRP deals out there, see my post above.

 

[Clark_Kent]

The motoringobsession site doesn't seem to have updated for the last month or so - not sure what's going on with it.

I recommend setting up saved searches on both CarGurus.com and Autotrader.com for new Civic Type R inventory. Do a nationwide search and sort by newest inventory.

States and dealers that will sell for MSRP based on my research: Ohio (Lindsay Honda, Matt Castrucci Honda), Missouri (Dave Mungenast Honda), Louisana (Richards Honda, Team Honda) Alabama (Carlock Honda), Florida (Honda of Bay County, Coconut Point Honda, Rick Case Honda, Hendrick Honda of Pompano), North Carolina (Hendrick Honda of Concord).

I've shopped around and busted balls quite a bit, so I have written quotes from a lot of dealers. I can provide written quotes if anyone needs them for bargaining chips. I currently have a deposit on an incoming white 2025 FL5 with Rick Case, as far as I know they have Boost Blue and Rallye Red incoming and I can provide the name of my salesperson who is giving me an MSRP deal. No add ons, just the $899 dealer fee.

I've been tempted to compile a database of dealerships that are charging market adjustments so they can be publicly shamed and boycotted, but I guess I'm not bored enough yet.

I've been out of the hunt for so long I didn't realize the data was stale. Not sure the status of this one, but here's another:

https://stevenmatchett.github.io/fl...KRFwPTxcr0lp8KmUutcV2DlaOGhMGorInXu9AjAzCRbfg

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