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TBH the value proposition is completely gone with this generation.

This is correct. In my experience credit unions do offer better financing rates. Of course your mileage may vary depending on credit score and finances. What is real scummy is some Honda dealers won’t sell you a Type R unless you finance through them which is a higher rate. IMO this should...

You literally just validated what I said. Did you even read your links? It says DAMAGED bushings, WORN oil, etc…. It’s hilarious you tried to insult my intelligence with a DK comment when you can’t even correlate working and damaged is not functioning within designed spec and classified as...

Unfortunately dealers and schmucks keep it in the conversation.

Someone commented they put $0 down for 8 years in this thread and there’s more detailed terms in other threads. It’s not a big deal if someone finds it comical when they see the terms.

If people don’t want their poor decisions commented on then perhaps they shouldn’t post them on a forum where, ya know, people chat about things.

Thanks for the unnecessary tangent attempting to prove your something that no one cares about. Wow, you sell shocks and have a shock dyno; no one is impressed. Your comment of ‘softening up’ is completely different from failure due to age and contradictory to your original statement...

Thx I’m aware. Highly probable it’s the same chassis with no difference and changed springs, sways, and bushings so it’s more comfortable as a daily. The world will be surprised if it’s more.

I believe this will happen and why you see so many low mileage FK8s. The media hyped a lot of people up who didn’t realize the car isn’t very fast from a stop with the two first gears being basically useless. The result is they traded it in.

1. Managing QA of suppliers falls on Hyundai as does the ownership of the DCT issue. 2. Outside of the Takata airbag issue which they covered up before issuing a recall Ford has the largest recall in history when they had a recall of 20 million cars in the 1980s. Ford and GM basically own the...

There is no spare tire.

You’re incorrect. Shocks don’t have a break in period and are fully operational out of the box. Springs on the other hand do ‘settle’ after a short period tho.

There’s no baseline to establish, it’s at MSRP or below, nothing more.

It won’t stop half of this board from attempting to finance for 8 years with a $500 down payment.

No, the chassis likely won’t be more rigid. Why would they make it more rigid when the intent is a more street-centric car?

If history holds true it won’t be stiffer than the Type R because Type S models are less hardcore and more comfortable for the street.

Honda’s record is bounds above Hyundai and if you’re gonna make a point it should be correct. Honda doesn’t make airbags homie, it was Takata who made airbags for many manufactures. Link - https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/takata-recall-spotlight. Link -...

The performance difference between Cup 2 and PS4S is so similar it’s the 265 wide tread that is a huge benefit.

Its the tires.

I thought I had read it was 189lbs, thanks for providing the actual numbers. So 67 pounds.