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Same dealer asking for $4k of ADM and Add ons just called me recently and offered just straight up $925 dealer add ons without ADM. I was tempted to pick it up even with the dealer add ons, but sold one day before I could go into the dealership. We are getting closer and closer to MSRP. Keep...

Rates are pretty awful right now 6-7% if you have the best credit. I'm sure most people buying these cars can't afford to pay straight up cash. So if you do end up paying 50k for a Civic Type R, put a 10k down payment and finance it at 6% for 5 years you end up paying almost $6400 in interest...

At this point $5k markup is what every dealer seems to be asking for and not getting. I've gotten anything from 2.5k(Bullshit dealer protection packages) to 3k pure adm without trying too hard. Hold out for MSRP. At this point I'm sick of salesmen trying to feed me bullshit about how it's a race...

I think it's a combination of impulse buys, fomo mentality, and unrealistic expectations. Then the high interest rates and realization that you may not be able to afford it. Finally the ability to dump it for relatively low loss depending on how much ADM you paid in the first place since most...

Which dealer in Michigan? I haven't had any luck here.

Wish it had a manual, but maybe I need to test drive the Golf R. Throttle House James just snagged one for his daily/family Car.

With the proper tires the FL5 will be fine but not that great or fun in the snow. I've driven my old Focus ST with Michelin Ice X and it was just miserable to drive in the winter/snow. Now my STI is a completely different story that car destroys snow with ease and is a ton of fun. I finally had...

Major props for using your GT4 as a daily. Dang let use know how your winter daily use goes. I'm too scared to drive my GT4 namely cause its still on cup tires but cause there's like no ground clearance at all. I've been entertaining the idea of getting a 996/997/991.1 Carrera 4/4S with lifted...

How much was their permaplate coating? It might as well be ADM cause literally it's just spray on garbage. I'm seeing a lot of dealers advertising these coating/protection packages instead of ADM.

Motoring Obsession may not be entirely accurate but there are definitely over 10 incoming civic type R in my area alone and some dealers are getting more than one. Just a month ago there was only 1. I've been in contact with several dealers claiming they're the lowest price but it ranges...

I think you need to lower your expectations. The shifter is not as good as a GT4/GT3 and many reviewers have pointed that out while the remaining reviewers will have you believing its one of the best shifters in the world. Type R is a great car for 45k, but it will never feel as analog...

Let 2024 bring in the year of MSRP and reduced markups especially since it’s already got a built in $1k markup, dang inflation.

Most people need to listen to this guy. I’ve been around plenty of death, illness and sickness, and frankly if my family members were sick the last thing I care about is my car hobby. As with everything in life there’s a balance. This Fomo and YOLO mentality is exactly what these dealers prey...

Dang you guys are balling if you can just drop $10k like that. Hopefully you paid cash and are not financing. Lets not forget Honda also raised prices by 10k from the prior generation. I think its a good car/value at MSRP, but I personally find it difficult to justify paying much more than that...

Are you actually financing the whole amount of the car? I am wondering if the dealer is giving you a better deal because of that?

Doesn't seem like much has changed. Called a bunch of local dealers who seem to getting incoming Type Rs. So far they want $7K ADM, $5k ADM, $5k ADM + $1500 dealer add-ons.

Log a formal complaint with Honda, that’s what I ended up doing.

I had pretty low hopes, since this was the same dealer that wanted 25k adm earlier this year. I also went cause this is the only FL5 Type R I've seen in person so I figured I owe it to myself to at least see it in person and sit in it. I did test drive an FK8 and was not blown away, the shifter...

Just went to check out a boost blue type R. Scummiest sleaziest tactics I've ever seen, first they won't tell you what they're charging ADM over the phone. Basically forced me to drive an hr to the dealership then there was an already sale pending sign on it. When I asked about it they said...

Warms my heart to hear the ADM are dropping. MSRP is sounding like a reality next year.