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Did people really think a civic, much less a Type-R, would have no road noise? Its already quite insulated compared to past Honda cars. Try a S2k or the ITR. The road noise in combination with the engine and music is all part of the experience.

What do you mean by hatchback feel? As in small and compact? The CTR is also massive by hatchback of yesteryear standards.

I will take whichever ends up being cheaper. If I get the CTR, I'll feel slightly more content because of my past ownership of a ITR, but more stress because it will be a DD. If I end up with a ITS, I might be overrall happier because it might not stand out as much and itsnt as "limited" or...

Huh, I didnt think a comment like that would sway me but having owned a '01 ITR with JDM Recaros and '04 S2k, both as weekend queens, it was frankly tiresome keeping those cars mint. Im now far less sentimental and neurotic. I want a great Honda product that harkens back to those special...

lol all this planning to try to modify your stock exhaust when you can just go get a aftermarket and sound even better.

'01 black Civic EX '01 PY ITR (with JDM 16in gunmetal rims and Recaros) '04 NFR S2k '18 Civic Hatch Sport ( my shortest owned Honda for just 1 year)

For some, they buy it for its intended purpose, which is to be able to crack the window a few inches in inclement weather without getting your interior dirty. Most get it because they feel it makes their car look better. I never got on board with that look, but then again, I also dont tint either.

Man, I still cant get over how massive this car is. Not just the width, but its long too. I'll have to get used to it as someone who prefers a S2k sized car.

Yea, ITS is a looker for sure. That rear diffuser is hot fire.

I thought that the gearbox was already excellent. Like almost on pair with the S2k.

Who wants to trade my ITS exhaust for your CTR seats?

Looks wise, this is definitely better than the CTR. Especially the headlights and the entire rear. Interior is definitely an upgrade except I would have preferred bucket seats from the CTR. Definitely looking at this over the R at a not insane MSRP from Honda.

I do like this color but its my last choice next to the baby blue color. My 19 mazda 3 hatch is the the same chalk gray color and Im sick of looking at a gray car. CW is first and red is second.

Thats what Im hoping to feel after I sold my ITR and AP2. Every time I get in and get to row those gears with that amazing Honda tranny, I get excited all over again. The only thing I feel I'll miss is the NA VTEC.

Nah, taking the civic is fine but taking out the Type-R is too much. THeres too much blank real estate.